Biden prohibits conversion therapy

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the idea that it is unscientific and unethical to use psychotherapy as the default treatment for gender dysphoria is demonstrably wrong. The original Dutch Protocol, which laid the foundations for pediatric gender transition, insisted on lengthy psychological prescreening of candidates before prescribing them puberty-blocking drugs.
What the Dutch experts knew then, and what researchers know now with even greater confidence, is that minors seeking transition tend to have extraordinarily high rates of mental-health problems, including anxiety, depression, attention-deficit and eating disorders, and autism.
The intuition here is simple: if kids are going to give consent to puberty blockers and cross-sex hormone injections, they should first be determined to be mentally stable and competent.
The psychological co-morbidities clinicians across the West are used to seeing in (mostly female) teenagers who show up for gender-transition procedures typically precede cross-gender identification and are thought to be in themselves the main causes of suicidality—the dreaded outcome that proponents of the affirm-only approach believe justifies allowing minors to consent to life-altering medical interventions.
Existing studies provide no evidence that affirming reduces suicidality, and a new study shows limited evidence that it might worsen the problem.

Affirm-only advocates like to say that their approach has the endorsement of “all major medical associations.” As critics have pointed out, however, the statements of these associations against psychotherapy are based on an egregious misreading of the evidence. For example, when the American Academy of Pediatrics denounced non-affirming approaches as “conversion therapy” in 2018, it based that conclusion entirely on studies done on homosexuality and omitted all relevant studies on youth gender dysphoria. It even interpreted one study as supporting the affirm-only approach, despite the fact that that study explicitly recommended “watchful waiting” (psychotherapy). No one with even superficial familiarity with the politics of gender medicine can take seriously the claim that there is an evidence-grounded consensus in favor of affirmation.

Not only that, but over the past two years medical authorities in Australia, Finland, France, the U.K., and Sweden have recommended severe limitations on affirming therapy, insisting that the evidence for this approach is tenuous at best. The Biden administration is strengthening its commitment to affirming therapy at precisely the moment when the world’s most progressive welfare states are becoming more restrained about the practice.
https://www.city-journal.org/bidens-blighted-executive-order-on-pediatric-gender-medicine
 
If you want conversion therapy, I'm sure you'll still be able to get it. Pray away the gay!!!

Could you be a bigger whiner? BIDEN WON'T LET QUACKS TRY TO CURE GAYNESS!!!!

Poor little fucktard.
 
the idea that it is unscientific and unethical to use psychotherapy as the default treatment for gender dysphoria is demonstrably wrong. The original Dutch Protocol, which laid the foundations for pediatric gender transition, insisted on lengthy psychological prescreening of candidates before prescribing them puberty-blocking drugs.
What the Dutch experts knew then, and what researchers know now with even greater confidence, is that minors seeking transition tend to have extraordinarily high rates of mental-health problems, including anxiety, depression, attention-deficit and eating disorders, and autism.
The intuition here is simple: if kids are going to give consent to puberty blockers and cross-sex hormone injections, they should first be determined to be mentally stable and competent.
The psychological co-morbidities clinicians across the West are used to seeing in (mostly female) teenagers who show up for gender-transition procedures typically precede cross-gender identification and are thought to be in themselves the main causes of suicidality—the dreaded outcome that proponents of the affirm-only approach believe justifies allowing minors to consent to life-altering medical interventions.
Existing studies provide no evidence that affirming reduces suicidality, and a new study shows limited evidence that it might worsen the problem.

Affirm-only advocates like to say that their approach has the endorsement of “all major medical associations.” As critics have pointed out, however, the statements of these associations against psychotherapy are based on an egregious misreading of the evidence. For example, when the American Academy of Pediatrics denounced non-affirming approaches as “conversion therapy” in 2018, it based that conclusion entirely on studies done on homosexuality and omitted all relevant studies on youth gender dysphoria. It even interpreted one study as supporting the affirm-only approach, despite the fact that that study explicitly recommended “watchful waiting” (psychotherapy). No one with even superficial familiarity with the politics of gender medicine can take seriously the claim that there is an evidence-grounded consensus in favor of affirmation.

Not only that, but over the past two years medical authorities in Australia, Finland, France, the U.K., and Sweden have recommended severe limitations on affirming therapy, insisting that the evidence for this approach is tenuous at best. The Biden administration is strengthening its commitment to affirming therapy at precisely the moment when the world’s most progressive welfare states are becoming more restrained about the practice.
https://www.city-journal.org/bidens-blighted-executive-order-on-pediatric-gender-medicine

So in other words do what they always have done? What a waste of thread.
 
Twenty-four states now ban or limit “conversion therapy,” effectively requiring mental-health experts to affirm, affirm, affirm. In California, and probably other places, parents whose teenage daughters suddenly and unexpectedly declare themselves trans and seek virilizing hormones have virtually no option to see a non-affirm-only therapist unless they go out of state
when states ban therapy you know you are in a bad situation.
This idea you can only use affirming therapy is self fulfilling, and poor psychiatric practice
we're talking hormones and puberty blockers -very intrusive medical therapy
and before that happens your committmnet (and exam of underlying problems) has to be heard
 
"Conversion therapy" is not the same as psychotherapy. The first aims to change whatever negative condition (in the mind of the "therapist") that someone has, sometimes using shame and humiliation. The second aims to discover the origins of that condition to determine whether it is psychological, and/or causing the individual problems, or whether it was inborn and thus treatable by other means.

That being said from a health point of view I'm not in favor of giving hormones to children under the age of 18 unless there is a good sound medical reason for it.
 
"Conversion therapy" is not the same as psychotherapy. The first aims to change whatever negative condition (in the mind of the "therapist") that someone has, sometimes using shame and humiliation. The second aims to discover the origins of that condition to determine whether it is psychological, and/or causing the individual problems, or whether it was inborn and thus treatable by other means.

That being said from a health point of view I'm not in favor of giving hormones to children under the age of 18 unless there is a good sound medical reason for it.
If that is true, then the therapist is using unethical means to insert their bias.
The second aims to discover the origins of that condition to determine whether it is psychological, and/or causing the individual problems, or whether it was inborn and thus treatable by other means.
or if underlying psych conflicts are driving gender dysphoria -
which of course is being ignored by "affirm therapy"- and likely common

That being said from a health point of view I'm not in favor of giving hormones to children under the age of 18 unless there is a good sound medical reason for it
how can you tell?
there has to be more then affirming therapy to find out.
 
hmmm so kids who want to play dress up are generally mental...

isnt that what we've been saying all along ?

homosexuality is not normal behavior.
 
"Kids are fluid about eveything. If they know at age 8 what they wanted to be, the world would be filled with cowboys and princesses.”
“I wanted to be a pirate. Thank God no one scheduled me for eye removal and peg leg surgery.” (Bill Maher)
 
"Conversion therapy" is not the same as psychotherapy. The first aims to change whatever negative condition (in the mind of the "therapist") that someone has, sometimes using shame and humiliation. The second aims to discover the origins of that condition to determine whether it is psychological, and/or causing the individual problems, or whether it was inborn and thus treatable by other means.

That being said from a health point of view I'm not in favor of giving hormones to children under the age of 18 unless there is a good sound medical reason for it.
I agree, but I think it should be a decision made by the patient and their Dr.
 
hmmm so kids who want to play dress up are generally mental...

isnt that what we've been saying all along ?

homosexuality is not normal behavior.

Define normal. It is not behavior exhibited by most animals, but it is present in many, many species. Human homosexuality has been around for centuries. It is largely shunned now due to puritan religious beliefs. But it most certainly is 'normal' to have a certain segment of the population be homosexual.
 
Define normal. It is not behavior exhibited by most animals, but it is present in many, many species. Human homosexuality has been around for centuries. It is largely shunned now due to puritan religious beliefs. But it most certainly is 'normal' to have a certain segment of the population be homosexual.

in this context it means crazy.

humping in animals has nothing to do with attraction.
 
affirm therapy looks to be aggressive in shutting out alternatives that "kids are fluid" (Bill Maher)
^I like Bill's term

Conversion therapy is probably the same - every 2 bit psychologist is a zealot for their cause.

But this is serious stuff, and we need more then just to be affirming those "fluid" kids minds
there needs to be a more rigorous rebuttal to their (kids) desires and see if they withstand it
 
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