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Louisiana physicist has proved God's existence



As reported by the First Coast News in Jacksonville, Florida, Tulane University professor Frank Tipler has "rock solid, scientific proof that God exists."

Tipler grew up religious, had a brief foray into doubt, only to return somewhat to his Christian roots in discovering that the singularity at the beginning of it all, is, well...God. God the father, to be specific. The universe that burst forth from this singularity is God the Son. And once the universe shrinks back into the singularity, well, there will be God the Holy Spirit.

Tipler, often confused with an objective rationalist because of his educational background, makes the bold claim that the singularity at the beginning of the universe "has the essential properties of God."

It's all so simple and logical, according to Tipler. And, "It's serious math and science, quantum mechanics, Einstein's Relativity Principle, the laws of physics."

It's sad. That's what it is.

It's a perfect example of the cognitive dissonance possible in the human psyche and why the idea that science and religion can be compatible is a dangerous one. Science suffers when scientists forgo the strict standards of the discipline and take giant leaps of faith, as Tipler has done, in order to give scientific credence to supernaturalism.
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I've gotta say, whenever I read about that singularity at the start of the Big Bang, I can't help but think that it's the craziest, must improbable thing imaginable. I doubt there is a dude with a white beard behind it, but it does make you think about all of the possibiities...
 
Onceler said:
I've gotta say, whenever I read about that singularity at the start of the Big Bang, I can't help but think that it's the craziest, must improbable thing imaginable. I doubt there is a dude with a white beard behind it, but it does make you think about all of the possibiities...
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And I gotta say, whenever I read about the "big bang", I can't help but think that it's the strangest, almost unimaginable thing to contemplate.

From the smallest pinpoint of ? comes the entire universe of untold tons of matter comprising the galaxies and everything else ????

A dude with a white beard behind it ?.... Its no more or less impossible or improbable than any other wild ass scenario you can come up with...........:confused::dunno::igive:
 
It sounds like an Onion article. Even if you want to call the singularity God, there is no consciousness in it. Therefore, it offers no support for the Judeo/Christian God and this nonsense about the trinity clearly indicates that he is attempting to describe the theory using his own silly biases.
 
RStringfield said:
It sounds like an Onion article. Even if you want to call the singularity God, there is no consciousness in it. Therefore, it offers no support for the Judeo/Christian God and this nonsense about the trinity clearly indicates that he is attempting to describe the theory using his own silly biases.
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Well, no shit Dick Tracy...
If he was a Hindu or a Mulsim or whatever, he would still be attempting to describe the theory using his own biases, whether you see them as silly or not....EVERYONE sees EVERYTHING through their own prism of reality and beliefs....theres no call to ridicule him.
His Christian God and "nonsense about the trinity" is as valid to him as whatever nonsense that occupies your little mind is to you.... even atheists have some sort of theory about the "beginning" too, don't they ?
 
bravo said:
Well, no shit Dick Tracy...
If he was a Hindu or a Mulsim or whatever, he would still be attempting to describe the theory using his own biases, whether you see them as silly or not....EVERYONE sees EVERYTHING through their own prism of reality and beliefs....theres no call to ridicule him.
His Christian God and "nonsense about the trinity" is as valid to him as whatever nonsense that occupies your little mind is to you.... even atheists have some sort of theory about the "beginning" too, don't they ?
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He claimed to have proof. He has none at all. He simply used the science relating to the singularity and attempted to claim it was HIS God with the trinity crap.
 
RStringfield said:
He claimed to have proof. He has none at all. He simply used the science relating to the singularity and attempted to claim it was HIS God with the trinity crap.
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As would a Hindu or Muslim or whatever...so what....Of course he has no proof, at least none that I would believe....but then I don't adhere to Obama's socialist/Marxist beliefs, or Louie Farrakhan's beliefs or bin Ladins's beliefs either...
at least this nuts beliefs don't matter one twit to me or my life....
 
It's a perfect example of the cognitive dissonance possible in the human psyche and why the idea that science and religion can be compatible is a dangerous one. Science suffers when scientists forgo the strict standards of the discipline and take giant leaps of faith, as Tipler has done, in order to give scientific credence to supernaturalism.
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That last paragraph is a pretty good summary.

This dude is employing classic confirmation bias. It's a complete departure from the scientific method. The fact that the universe originated from a super dense initial condition doesn't prove anything about God, Allah, or Gaia.


"The scientific mind does not so much provide the right answers as ask the right questions."

--Claude Levi-Strauss.
 
Cypress said:
That last paragraph is a pretty good summary.

This dude is employing classic confirmation bias. It's a complete departure from the scientific method. The fact that the universe originated from a super dense initial condition doesn't prove anything about God, Allah, or Gaia.


"The scientific mind does not so much provide the right answers as ask the right questions."

--Claude Levi-Strauss.
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It DOES however, prove much about Azathoth.
 
Onceler said:
I've gotta say, whenever I read about that singularity at the start of the Big Bang, I can't help but think that it's the craziest, must improbable thing imaginable.
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1. Onceler, let's make this clear. You do not understand the big bang. You have read a brief description of it. That is not the same as fully understanding it. Even I do not fully understand it either, but I do not presume to ignorantly hand wave it with an asinine logically fallacious argument by ignorance, as you have done.

2. There is pretty clear proof of it in the microwave background radiation.

Onceler said:
I doubt there is a dude with a white beard behind it,
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I don't care if your god has a white beard or not. You have to come up with proof of your God before you can state that you believe in it. Not the other way around.

Onceler said:
but it does make you think about all of the possibiities...
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None of the mathematics of the big bang requires intelligence. Requiring intelligence would only further complicate things.

There are an infinite amount of possibilities. To believe in some random possibility without any evidence is foolishness of the first magnitude.
 
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Southern Man said:
Atheists will simply dismiss this, or require still higher levels of proof.
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There has never been any proof of God. I do not require infinite proof of something, but I want to be at least comfortable that there is some proof at all. The only reason the belief in God is so prevalent is because of a popular madness sprouted by some ignorant man who took too many hallucinogens a few thousand years ago and was able to convinced a bunch of fellow fools in an age when the bar of evidence was as low as possible. That's why there have been practically no serious religions developed in the modern age.
 
Mr. Spite said:
Even I do not fully understand it either, but I do not presume to ignorantly hand wave it with an asinine logically fallacious argument by ignorance, as you have done.


There are an infinite amount of possibilities. To believe in some random possibility without any evidence is foolishness of the first magnitude.
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1. The why do you believe in it?

2. Then why do you believe in the Big Bang?
 
I reccomend this for all you god proles:

" Lawrence Krauss gives a talk on our current picture of the universe, how it will end, and how it could have come from nothing. "

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo&feature=PlayList&p=234FDDB523233ED4&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=2"]YouTube- 'A Universe From Nothing' by Lawrence Krauss, AAI 2009[/ame]

bonus introduction by richard dawkins :) <3 <3 <3
 
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