As student scores plummet, teachers unions play politics and make them worse

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The disgraceful state of our school system in entirely the fault of the Stalin-o-crats, and their agents the teachers, where getting money for the union and DNC have long been the main goals.

And now, as our students flounder with STEM as well as simple reading, slociaql sexual and racial indoctrination are what is being foisted on ouir children, against the wishes of their parents.



As student scores plummet, teachers unions play politics and make them worse

Opinion by Washington Examiner




After another summer of radical activity from the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers, Congress should revoke the unique federal charter of the former, and federal agencies should ensure both groups comply fully with labor laws.

Both unions long ago abandoned their proper missions, namely ensuring reasonable working conditions for school staff. Both now are avatars of the extreme Left, focused less on educational attainment than on partisan political activism and radical social crusades.

Witness the major summer conferences of each organization this year. As highlighted in a new report by the Defense of Freedom Institute, the teachers unions keep pushing contentious racial and gender agendas, try to conceal what they are really doing, seek to block parental involvement in education, and push disciplinary laxity at the cost of classroom safety. The Aug. 16 report, called “Summer of Woke, the Sequel,” details a litany of the unions’ conference obsessions that militate against the interests and views of large majorities of parents. The NEA openly advocates violations of Titles VI and VII of the Civil Rights Act by advocating hiring preferences based on race and gender while literally opposing “employment practices that treat people equally regardless of ethnicity or gender.”

This all comes at the expense of a focus on improving teaching, which should be the top priority after recent calamitous drops in national education scores. Consider a resolution on transgender issues that the AFT passed; it advocates “inclusive policies relating to … bathrooms and locker rooms.” It also commits the union and its teachers to work with activist groups that, among other things, demand that staff should avoid telling parents when calling students by “pronouns” that do not fit their biological sex.

The NEA this year released a “Pronoun Guide” listing the “most common pronouns the non-words “ze,” “zim,” “zir” “zirs,” and “zerself” in lieu of he, him, her, hers, and herself. This isn’t a joke. The unions want to fill children's heads with nonsense instead of teaching them English. One of the NEA's summer sessions, according to the think tank’s report, “argues that ‘cisnormativity,’ the assumption that people’s gender identity matches their biological sex, ‘can be limiting for [differently gendered people] … and cisgender folks alike.” Schoolchildren should be learning facts, the truth, what is what, at school. They should not be told a pack of ideological lies.













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Always an easy punching bag for conservative, attack the teachers, and Unions, coupling them is a sure seller with those alienated and threatened by cultural change, it’s the teachers’ fault
 
Always an easy punching bag for conservative, attack the teachers, and Unions, coupling them is a sure seller with those alienated and threatened by cultural change, it’s the teachers’ fault

In Walter Isaacson’s biography on Steve Jobs he wrote about Jobs’ meeting with President Obama in the White House where he told the President (I’m paraphrasing) ‘our education system is hopelessly antiquated and until you break the teachers unions it won’t change’.

We can go way into the weeds on why that is true but it is possible to both be supportive of teachers individually and what they do, while recognizing their union for what it is.
 
I remember years ago, the head of the NEA, the second largest teacher's union, commented "When students pay dues, I'll care about students..."

That sums up teacher's unions in one sentence.
 
Always an easy punching bag for conservative, attack the teachers, and Unions, coupling them is a sure seller with those alienated and threatened by cultural change, it’s the teachers’ fault

A good teacher who turns out good student graduates doesn't need a union to protect their job. Mediocre teachers who do the minimum and are often called on the carpet to answer for their questionable actions do.

Unions promote mediocrity more often than improve quality.
 
Typical handjob, lies and bullshit!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-union-leader/2012/05/28/gJQAhbOxwU_blog.html

When school children start paying union dues, that 's when I'll start representing the interests of school children.
Albert Shanker

https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/albert_shanker_309528

Quote quibbles aside, teachers unions don't look out for kids
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/quote-quibbles-aside-teachers-unions-dont-look-out-for-kids

So, yes, you are fuckwad from a handjob, that lies and bullshits.
 
In Walter Isaacson’s biography on Steve Jobs he wrote about Jobs’ meeting with President Obama in the White House where he told the President (I’m paraphrasing) ‘our education system is hopelessly antiquated and until you break the teachers unions it won’t change’.

We can go way into the weeds on why that is true but it is possible to both be supportive of teachers individually and what they do, while recognizing their union for what it is.

If it weren’t for the Union teachers would be totally helpless, only employed upon the whims of the politicians, and I wouldn’t hold Steve Jobs as an oracle on life in general let alone education of children
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-union-leader/2012/05/28/gJQAhbOxwU_blog.html

When school children start paying union dues, that 's when I'll start representing the interests of school children.
Albert Shanker

https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/albert_shanker_309528

Quote quibbles aside, teachers unions don't look out for kids
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/quote-quibbles-aside-teachers-unions-dont-look-out-for-kids

So, yes, you are fuckwad from a handjob, that lies and bullshits.
The problem is that no one knows for sure if Albert Shanker actually said these words.

Various efforts to trace the origins of this line have failed to discover whether Shanker ever said it.

It appeared in a small newspaper in Mississippi. Rightwing outlets love to cite it.

But no one can authenticate that Albert Shanker ever said it.

So we can expect that rightwing opponents of teachers’ right to bargain collectively will continue to cite this as fact rather than fancy.
 
If it weren’t for the Union teachers would be totally helpless, only employed upon the whims of the politicians, and I wouldn’t hold Steve Jobs as an oracle on life in general let alone education of children

Instead we have teachers unions and politicians operating almost as one and who you know whose needs are secondary in all that? Kids
 
The disgraceful state of our school system in entirely the fault of the Stalin-o-crats, and their agents the teachers, where getting money for the union and DNC have long been the main goals.

And now, as our students flounder with STEM as well as simple reading, slociaql sexual and racial indoctrination are what is being foisted on ouir children, against the wishes of their parents.



As student scores plummet, teachers unions play politics and make them worse

Opinion by Washington Examiner




After another summer of radical activity from the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers, Congress should revoke the unique federal charter of the former, and federal agencies should ensure both groups comply fully with labor laws.

Both unions long ago abandoned their proper missions, namely ensuring reasonable working conditions for school staff. Both now are avatars of the extreme Left, focused less on educational attainment than on partisan political activism and radical social crusades.

Witness the major summer conferences of each organization this year. As highlighted in a new report by the Defense of Freedom Institute, the teachers unions keep pushing contentious racial and gender agendas, try to conceal what they are really doing, seek to block parental involvement in education, and push disciplinary laxity at the cost of classroom safety. The Aug. 16 report, called “Summer of Woke, the Sequel,” details a litany of the unions’ conference obsessions that militate against the interests and views of large majorities of parents. The NEA openly advocates violations of Titles VI and VII of the Civil Rights Act by advocating hiring preferences based on race and gender while literally opposing “employment practices that treat people equally regardless of ethnicity or gender.”

This all comes at the expense of a focus on improving teaching, which should be the top priority after recent calamitous drops in national education scores. Consider a resolution on transgender issues that the AFT passed; it advocates “inclusive policies relating to … bathrooms and locker rooms.” It also commits the union and its teachers to work with activist groups that, among other things, demand that staff should avoid telling parents when calling students by “pronouns” that do not fit their biological sex.

The NEA this year released a “Pronoun Guide” listing the “most common pronouns the non-words “ze,” “zim,” “zir” “zirs,” and “zerself” in lieu of he, him, her, hers, and herself. This isn’t a joke. The unions want to fill children's heads with nonsense instead of teaching them English. One of the NEA's summer sessions, according to the think tank’s report, “argues that ‘cisnormativity,’ the assumption that people’s gender identity matches their biological sex, ‘can be limiting for [differently gendered people] … and cisgender folks alike.” Schoolchildren should be learning facts, the truth, what is what, at school. They should not be told a pack of ideological lies.













https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...tp&cvid=25de3043e61942f7886e98b5b893bec5&ei=9


8b37cd1bb157f53e4a21153c5fabb49a.jpg

Lets get something clear, Trump as were his lawyers all were privy to the best education this nation has to offer and all are about as stupid and fucked up as some random fresh off the border......now who's the blame? Thier fuckin teachers or them?
 
Instead we have teachers unions and politicians operating almost as one and who you know whose needs are secondary in all that? Kids

As I said, with out their Unions, teachers would be defenseless.

They are generally underpaid, under appreciated, and the punching bag and whipping boy for anyone with a cause looking for attention. And in today’s world, where they can be sued for saying the wrong word in a lesson, or told to teach that which they know isn’t true, it is amazing that any young person would even want to be a teacher

Blaming the Union is just a scapegoat for demagogues, done largely cause it is easy
 
Always an easy punching bag for conservative, attack the teachers, and Unions, coupling them is a sure seller with those alienated and threatened by cultural change, it’s the teachers’ fault
Actually it's the Union's fault... teachers hate what's happening to our schools but our hands are tied.
. Have been for a very long time...
 
As I said, with out their Unions, teachers would be defenseless.

They are generally underpaid, under appreciated, and the punching bag and whipping boy for anyone with a cause looking for attention. And in today’s world, where they can be sued for saying the wrong word in a lesson, or told to teach that which they know isn’t true, it is amazing that any young person would even want to be a teacher

Blaming the Union is just a scapegoat for demagogues, done largely cause it is easy

Really, anyone who questions our education system or how we deliver it is now a demogauge?

That’s one way to try and shut down discussion. Not quite as powerful as calling someone a racist but still solid.
 
As I said, with out their Unions, teachers would be defenseless.

They are generally underpaid, under appreciated, and the punching bag and whipping boy for anyone with a cause looking for attention. And in today’s world, where they can be sued for saying the wrong word in a lesson, or told to teach that which they know isn’t true, it is amazing that any young person would even want to be a teacher

Blaming the Union is just a scapegoat for demagogues, done largely cause it is easy

I can’t speak to nationally but in the Bay Area they’ve had progressives go after the police unions because the reality is the police unions are the barriers to legislative change which people think will hold cops more accountable.

They demogauges as well? Is there nuance?
 
As I said, with out their Unions, teachers would be defenseless.

They are generally underpaid, under appreciated, and the punching bag and whipping boy for anyone with a cause looking for attention. And in today’s world, where they can be sued for saying the wrong word in a lesson, or told to teach that which they know isn’t true, it is amazing that any young person would even want to be a teacher

Blaming the Union is just a scapegoat for demagogues, done largely cause it is easy

No one is forcing them into teaching or being teachers. Maybe it's a case of

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Labor unions, and I'd put teacher's unions in that category rather than professional and trade unions where they have standards their members have to met, are about one thing, and one thing only: How much money can they squeeze out of the companies and employers they work for.
 
The disgraceful state of our school system in entirely the fault of the Stalin-o-crats, and their agents the teachers, where getting money for the union and DNC have long been the main goals.


Nonsense. When stupid people are allowed to procreate, their kids are obviously going to struggle.


We don't seem to have a forum with many realists contributing.
At least we have me.

I support the teachers' unions 100%.
 
A good teacher who turns out good student graduates doesn't need a union to protect their job. Mediocre teachers who do the minimum and are often called on the carpet to answer for their questionable actions do.

Unions promote mediocrity more often than improve quality.

Sure they do, this year’s good teacher may become next year’s pidgin if local politicians get involved
 
Actually it's the Union's fault... teachers hate what's happening to our schools but our hands are tied.
. Have been for a very long time...

Unions don’t dictate what is taught or how it is taught, they can recommend, but they are there to serve the teachers labor issues
 
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