Are Buddhists violent?

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Burma's president Thein Sein has announced a state of emergency in the western state of Rakhine, following a week of sectarian attacks in the area.


A spate of violence involving Buddhists and Muslims has left 17 people dead and hundreds of properties damaged.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18384929
 
Not usually. But even Buddha recognized the right of all life to defend itself.

More realistic to the region in question: According to the Dalai Lama, “If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.” (Seattle Times, May 15, 2001).
 
Not usually. But even Buddha recognized the right of all life to defend itself. More realistic to the region in question: According to the Dalai Lama, “If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.” (Seattle Times, May 15, 2001).

So would you say any reference to Buddhism as a "religion of peace" would be inaccurate?
 
So would you say any reference to Buddhism as a "religion of peace" would be inaccurate?

I would not make such an assertion. Buddhism remains the only major religion that has never tried to spread itself through violence. Nobody is converted to Buddhism, nor has there ever been anybody converted to Buddhism, at the blade of a sword.

Imperfections exist among humans, even Buddhists. The assumption of perfect action is one only expected of those of the "other"... of groups other than your own. You can see this as people predictably point out the imperfections of groups to which they do not belong while excusing the imperfections of groups they are part of...

In this case it appears as if people are seeking vengeance, not a Buddhist precept. There is nothing in the philosophy that would tell people it is okay to turn to vigilantism.
 
I would not make such an assertion...In this case it appears as if people are seeking vengeance, not a Buddhist precept. There is nothing in the philosophy that would tell people it is okay to turn to vigilantism.

Nothing except this?

Buddha recognized the right of all life to defend itself. More realistic to the region in question: According to the Dalai Lama, “If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.” (Seattle Times, May 15, 2001).
 
Not even that. Can you tell how the people who rioted were protecting their lives? It appears that people reacted as people rather than as Buddhists.

So whenever Blabo or RacistX post a fear/hate thread about Muslims committing atrocities, you'll point out that the perpetrators could've reacted as people rather than Muslims?
 
So whenever Blabo or RacistX post a fear/hate thread about Muslims committing atrocities, you'll point out that the perpetrators could've reacted as people rather than Muslims?
You again misstate what I have actually wrote. Your RCDD again... I'm sorry about that. It makes things difficult.

No, not "whenever" they do. I have already made my statements to them, occasionally I "refresh" my statements. I think Webbway is a racist... Also, much of what I have stated about Buddhism is not true of Islam or Christianity.

Both of those religions have converted people at the sword, one of the religions actually states that it is a valid way to convert people.

Anyway, Christians and Muslims who reacted by rioting after somebody did this would also not be following their religions.

Whether that makes them a "religion of peace" is a question for another day.
 
No. Much of what I have stated about Buddhism is not true of Islam or Christianity.

So Christians and Muslims are incapable of reacting as people rather than as Christians or Muslims, but Buddhists get a pass?
 
What I wrote:
You again misstate what I have actually wrote. Your RCDD again... I'm sorry about that. It makes things difficult.

No, not "whenever" they do. I have already made my statements to them, occasionally I "refresh" my statements. I think Webbway is a racist... Also, much of what I have stated about Buddhism is not true of Islam or Christianity.

Both of those religions have converted people at the sword, one of the religions actually states that it is a valid way to convert people.

Anyway, Christians and Muslims who reacted by rioting after somebody did this would also not be following their religions.

Whether that makes them a "religion of peace" is a question for another day.

What you asked afterwards:
So Christians and Muslims are incapable of reacting as people rather than as Christians or Muslims, but Buddhists get a pass?

More RCDD...
 
LOL.

Explain how hypothetical Buddhists engaged in vigilantism are morally superior to Muslims engaged in vigilantism, will you?

Shall I post what I said again?

You again misstate what I have actually wrote. Your RCDD again... I'm sorry about that. It makes things difficult.

No, not "whenever" they do. I have already made my statements to them, occasionally I "refresh" my statements. I think Webbway is a racist... Also, much of what I have stated about Buddhism is not true of Islam or Christianity.

Both of those religions have converted people at the sword, one of the religions actually states that it is a valid way to convert people.

Anyway, Christians and Muslims who reacted by rioting after somebody did this would also not be following their religions.

Whether that makes them a "religion of peace" is a question for another day.

Moral superiority is your own invention, you can argue that with yourself.
 
So Buddhism is no better or worse than Islam from a moral standpoint?
 
(Reuters) - The European Union said on Monday it was satisfied with Myanmar's "measured" handling of the Muslim-Buddhist violence that engulfed one of its biggest towns at the weekend, while the United States urged all ethnic groups to work at reconciliation.

As rival mobs of Muslims and Buddhists torched houses in Sittwe, the biggest town in northwestern Myanmar, police fired into the air and Muslims fled to neighboring Bangladesh.

The fighting was the worst communal violence since a reformist government replaced a junta last year, began to allow political pluralism and vowed to tackle ethnic divisions. Those reforms helped persuade the United States and the European Union to suspend economic sanctions.

The European Union welcomed the "measured response" of Myanmar President Thein Sein, who has warned against "never-ending hatred, desire for revenge and anarchic actions".

"We believe that the security forces are handling this difficult intercommunal violence in an appropriate way," said Maja Kocijanic, spokeswoman for EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton. "We welcome the priority which the Myanmar government is giving to dealing with all ethnic conflicts."

EU states suspended most sanctions after the government released many political prisoners, allowed opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi and her NLD party to contest by-elections, and lifted some repressive measures.

The United States, which had imposed more stringent and comprehensive sanctions on Myanmar, also suspended curbs on U.S. investment and the provision of financial services in response to changes in the country.[/U
]At least eight people were killed and many wounded, authorities said, after fighting erupted on Friday in the town of Maungdaw, and quickly spread to Sittwe and nearby villages.

Sate-run MRTV announced curfews in three towns, including Thandwe, the gateway to Myanmar's tourist beaches, and Kyaukphyu, where China is building a port complex.

Western firms are keen to help meet Myanmar's vast need for investment in health, telecommunications, housing, energy and other infrastructure after decades of isolation.

Buddhists and Muslims have long lived in uneasy proximity in Sittwe, where ethnic Rakhine Buddhists were carrying bamboo stakes, machetes, slingshots and other makeshift weapons at the weekend after Muslims were seen setting houses on fire.

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Some victims of the violence were from the stateless Rohingya group of Muslims, who live in abject conditions along Myanmar's border with Bangladesh and are despised by many Rakhine, who belong to the predominantly Buddhist majority.

Rohingya activists have long demanded recognition in Myanmar as an indigenous ethnic group with full citizenship by birthright, claiming a centuries-old lineage in Rakhine State, where they number some 800,000.

But the government regards them as illegal immigrants from Bangladesh and denies them citizenship. Bangladesh has refused to grant Rohingyas refugee status since 1992.

The authorities have blamed Rohingya mobs for the violence. But Rohingya activists and residents accuse ethnic Rakhine of terrorizing their communities.

The western region has been tense for more than a week after the gang rape and murder of a Buddhist woman, widely blamed on Muslims, and the reprisal killing of 10 Muslims by a Buddhist mob a week ago.

State media said three men had gone on trial on Friday for the rape and murder.
 
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Myanmar's emerging as a reformist gov't
replaced a junta last year, began to allow political pluralism and vowed to tackle ethnic divisions. Those reforms helped persuade the United States and the European Union to suspend economic sanctions

PPl have vested interests, if anything this show the end of the Junta is producing violence, but that's a precursor to a national identity, (reconcilliation).

Buddhism isn't all "Om" There are many approches - even the 'militant monks' in Dharmasala -despite urging by Dalai Lama scrifice their lives, and have a violent death 0f suicide - specifically said to be a detrimentail to karma.

These are humans, and humans are flawed, the world is not filled up with bodhisattvas. One tries always to avoid conflict, the peace way is preferable.

But this nation has lied thru a decade of military rule, and as the iron fist leaves, the ppl have to learn to forge a national identity.
 
annata...

this is the second thread with the same story. You posted pretty much what I said in that other thread.

People are not perfect, even Buddhists. The assumption is that this particular philosophy/religion has perfect people in it and some are shocked when they see them make mistakes. I guess we should be flattered.
 
...People are not perfect, even Buddhists...

So when Blabo and his fellow fearmongers start foreboding threads about "Islamic" atrocities, I should expect to see Damocles declaiming that "People are not perfect, even Muslims"?

...The assumption is that this particular philosophy/religion has perfect people in it ...

I don't recall stating that "assumption". Perhaps it was your own.

...and some are shocked when they see them make mistakes...

Who said they were "shocked"?

What "mistakes" are you referring to?

...I guess we should be flattered.

Why would you feel flattered when you read an article about sectarian violence?
 
I'll see if I have the attention span to find that other thread and merge these two messes. Your attempt at posting the same thing over and over in the hopes of getting some different response have failed.
 
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