American mom spent her life advocating for Palestinian rights. Then, Hamas came

[Nomad]

Again, saying that Hamas are Palestinians is not saying that All Palestinians are Hamas, that's your own "special" thing, a strawman of the worst kind. It's always easy to argue with a strawman you create, you can even dress them up as clowns.

You ----> "The thing of it is, this is the government that they elected taking action that they were elected to take. It wasn't like they ran on a message of peace and got elected and then changed their message mid-stream."

Sounds to me like that's exactly what you're saying.

BTW, what percentage of Palestinians voted for Hamas?

2006 parliamentary elections

Main article: 2006 Palestinian legislative election
At the 2006 legislative election, six parties and 4 independents won seats. Change and Reform (i.e., Hamas) won 44.45% of the vote and 74 seats, while Fatah won 41.43% of the vote and 45 seats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Palestine

So according to you, all Palestinians are reflected on by a group who came to power with less than 50% of the people voting for them.

Also, before you paint a saintly halo over the heads of the Israelis, here is one of many examples over the years where it's difficult to tell the difference between who are the terrorists and who aren't....

In March 2018, tens of thousands of Gazans began six weeks of Friday protests called the “Great March of Return” at the border fence with Israel. Initially led by independent activists, the demonstrations were co-opted by Hamas. Demonstrators threw Molotov cocktails, launched stones with slings, burned tires, or sought to breach the fence. Israel responded with live fire, killing more than 100 Palestinians and wounding thousands.

https://www.usip.org/palestinian-politics-timeline-2006-election

However, Hamas is the elected government, and their actions as the elected government do reflect onto those they represent even as it would on us had our government acted in the fashion I described.

No matter how much of this thread you read, and it will be small because you seem to prefer ignorance and strawmen to knowledge, it will not change those simple facts. Hamas ran on a platform that denied Israel any right to exist and was elected, this is reality. Pretending that how they vote and who they chose to represent them does not reflect on the people who elected them is just blather.

Trump ran on a lot of ignorant shit that I didn't vote for because I didn't vote for him.

His fucked up behavior should not reflect on me or any other Democrat.

 

[domer76]

Well, maybe they aren't run by a coalition that refuses to recognize the right of Israel to exist and continues to launch rockets in, though they still employ almost all of the people that are employed there.... Hmmm...

None of what you are saying or have said changes anything of what I have said here today. Hamas has ceded the moral high ground to Israel by their actions, Gaza is run by Hamas who were elected to the position running on a platform that Israel has no right to exist and will be "pushed into the sea", the Prime Minister is from Hamas as well.

You can twist and squirm all you want, but it will not change that the official position of these United States will be (correctly) to side with Israel.

Nothing you have said changes any of mine, either. Israel, as a decades long occupier, oppressor and practitioner of essentially an apartheid policy, has no moral high ground.

 

[Lightbringer]

Well, maybe they aren't run by a coalition that refuses to recognize the right of Israel to exist and continues to launch rockets in, though they still employ almost all of the people that are employed there.... Hmmm...

None of what you are saying or have said changes anything of what I have said here today. Hamas has ceded the moral high ground to Israel by their actions, Gaza is run by Hamas who were elected to the position running on a platform that Israel has no right to exist and will be "pushed into the sea", the Prime Minister is from Hamas as well.

You can twist and squirm all you want, but it will not change that the official position of these United States will be (correctly) to side with Israel.

Unless Mossad runs Hamas.

I know what you did in the service, don't tell me that thought is foreign to you. You know it's not only possible...it's likely.

 

[Earl]

Those who say that Mossad runs Hamas need to provide links proving this, otherwise, it’s a lie.

This is industrial strength stupidity. Smithsonian stuff.

 

[Lightbringer]

I can't think for myself and I"m a ginormous pussy..

We've all known that about you forever. You are Pavlov's Dog, most of us see that about you. You're an idiot and I'm done spoon feeding you because you're just as intellectually dishonest as the people you think are "the enemy."

Suck more jew cock Legion and what you started here isn't going to end until you bend the knee. I mean that. I've let you off the hook before but on this one no...bend the knee or you have eternal war, a war you started.

 

[Earl]

^^^

IJBOL, meaning “I Just Burst Out Laughing.”