About That 716 Billion

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Howey

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j-mac said:
Ok, then explain the supposed "cost savings" in Medicare, in which $716 Billion was taken out to fund the ACA.

No, you are either misunderstanding what is in it, or intentionally misstating it. The Ryan plan was to take the $700 Billion that Obama cut out of Medicare, and instead of using it to create a new entitlement program, Ryan's plan would shift it to the back end of Medicare to help defray the future unfunded liabilities.
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You forgot one option. That you're another liar. Here's the truth about that 716 Billion.

Seems like just yesterday that the big Republican talking point was that Obamacare cuts $500 billion from Medicare. Now, it's $700 billion.

That's the number -- $716 billion to be precise -- that's gotten tossed around this week.
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In an interview on the CBS program 60 Minutes, Mitt Romney said Obama "robbed Medicare" of $716 billion to pay for "Obamacare." We found that exaggerated what Obama had done in the health care law.

While the health care law reduces the amount of future spending growth in Medicare, the law doesn't actually cut Medicare. Savings come from reducing money that goes to private insurers who provide Medicare Advantage programs, among other things. The money wasn’t "robbed." We rated the statement Mostly False.
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Responding to the Romney attack, Obama campaign spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said Ryan's budget relies on the same $700 billion in savings from Medicare that Mitt Romney and other Republicans have been attacking Democrats about.

Ryan has confirmed that, and we rated it True.
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Thus kills one tired right wing talking point.

You're welcome :)
 
This is the true ‘bomb’ contained in Obamacare and the one item that will have more impact on the future of how medical care is paid for in this country than anything we’ve seen in quite some time. Indeed, it is this aspect of the law that represents the true ‘death panel’ found in Obamacare—but not one that is going to lead to the death of American consumers. Rather, the medical loss ratio will, ultimately, lead to the death of large parts of the private, for-profit health insurance industry.

Why? Because there is absolutely no way for-profit health insurers are going to be able to learn how to get by and still make a profit while being forced to spend at least 80 percent of their receipts providing their customers with the coverage for which they paid. If they could, we likely would never have seen the extraordinary efforts made by these companies to avoid paying benefits to their customers at the very moment they need it the most.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickung...buried-in-obamacare-explodes-today-halleluja/
 
RazorX said:
LOL

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And?

Are you so stupid you don't realize that is exactly what he's done? Did you not read the Politifact piece?

Look...there's plenty of stuff Obama's done that may be legitimate that you can complain about. Not this. Hell, there's more than that since he's a buhlack man and you're an avowed racist who's threatened to kill him.

By the way, did you get that visit yet?
 
Howey said:
And?

Are you so stupid you don't realize that is exactly what he's done? Did you not read the Politifact piece?

Look...there's plenty of stuff Obama's done that may be legitimate that you can complain about. Not this. Hell, there's more than that since he's a buhlack man and you're an avowed racist who's threatened to kill him.

By the way, did you get that visit yet?
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ah, he didn't cut Medicare, he's black.....brilliant argument from the left.....
 
enough said:
lol, so true. there is virtually no intelligent discussion from any lefty on this board anymore.
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So claims the lying clown who still won't provide any "intelligent discussion" in response to the question he got asked 4+ days ago.

Typical double standard Yurt bullshit.
 
Haiku said:
He didn't cut medicare he expanded coverage...he cut waste and abuse.
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not going to fly....did you notice the video where he himself stated he cut Medicare......how do you explain that statement in light of your current denial?......did he not know what he was doing?......
 
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