95% of Humans are Spiritual

[apple0154]

Just exactly how did we get into another healthcare debate in the middle of a thread about spirituality? Do you pinheads not understand the concept of a SUBJECT? We have numerous threads on the board about health care, and most of the points now being made here, are also being made and addressed in the other threads, why must you turn this thread into another repeat of the others? I don't understand that.

My apologies, Dixie. While it's always uncomfortable to be corrected I must admit I am elated to see that, for once, you are correct.

 

[DigitalDave]

Just imagine how unjust our world would be if that was the case. Once a person made a certain amount of money they would never work again. Prices would never rise. Wages would stay the same. Older people wouldn't be available to train younger people.

This alone shows me that you are less concerned with the free will of others and are more concerned with harming others to mold society. That is not something I value. When people with arthritis in their late 50's need to go back to work just to keep up so they can retire with enough money to live within their means, they really have no desire to be there. How valuable are they really when they feel forced to go back into the workforce?

Secondly, you act as if money is they only thing people will have a passion for. Even if that was the case, a stable dollar would not stop them from excelling in order to make more. But, nearly everyone has a passion for something, and they are willing to do things to help others, even without pay. I good example of that are internet forums. People don't get paid, yet they are there sharing knowledge and helping others. I think it's a little shallow to think that people won't help improve society once they feel they have enough money.

Third, when it comes to wages, people will still demand more as they gain experience. Wages will still increase as time moves on for the individual. Businesses will still need experienced people to handle certain jobs, and there will be people completely willing to make more money.

Then we have interest rates to consider. If people were not compelled to invest their money, "to spread it around", our society would stagnate.

Before the dollar began losing it's value, people still invested, and people still wanted to be richer. Hell, the Federal Reserve was created out of greed, from a bunch of wealthy individuals wanting to find a way to fix the system to benefit themselves, while harming others. Again, it forces people to put their lives at risk in an unstable system just to keep up. Instead of choosing to invest, we are almost forced to. I wonder who benefitted from that. Of course, the rich do, while we just try to keep up the pace.

Where would the credit come from? One family that acquired riches would simply pass it along to their children while no doubt voting against succession taxes. The American Dream would be an American Nightmare. That is how the Feudal systems operated.

The credit would come from the same bankers that provided credit when the dollar was stable, before the federal reserve. Now the American dream means you have to have two incomes to support a family and own a home, all the while trying to save up enough to retire someday. Divorce rates are rising and the American Dream seems like a grand illusion.

I agree the banks shouldn't have been bailed out. Actually, there shouldn't be a Federal Reserve. The government should have full control of the money.

You wrote, "Want to talk corruption? Wish healthcare costs stayed stable? Now you know they can't be, nor will ever be, with a corrupt government."

Again, we come back to the fact that almost every country with a government health care plan spends less per capita than the US. Are we to assume the US government is the most corrupt of all those countries?

Again, I think other countries are on par with the corruption. A lot of the corruption in our country is hidden. I've given a major example of that corruption and even though it's been corrupt for nearly a century, we haven't rolled it back. We just continue along with it. Doesn't mean it's good or what we should be doing. I honestly think we spend more per capita because we are already corrupt. Things won't change because the rich medical organizations don't want it to. They will still be in control, whether or not we have a government plan.