8 consecutive months of private sector job growth

Well, first of all, even though economists may say that the recession officially ended last year, obviously for the millions of people who are still out of work, people who have seen their home values decline, people who are struggling to pay the bills day to day, it’s still very real for them.

And I think we have to go back to what was happening when I was first sworn in as the 44th President of the United States.

We went through the worst recession since the Great Depression. Nothing has come close.

In fact, if you look at the consequences of the recession in the ‘80s, the recession in the ‘90s, and the recession in 2001, and you combine all three of those, it still wasn’t as bad as this recession that we went through.

So the month I was sworn in we lost 750,000 jobs; the month after that 600,000; the month after that 600,000. This is before any of our plans had a chance to take effect.

The financial markets were on the verge of meltdown and the economy was contracting about 6 percent.

By far, the largest contraction we've seen since the ‘30s.

You combine all that and what that meant was that we had to take some steps very quickly just to make sure that the financial system was not collapsing, that people could get auto loans, could get student loans, that businesses large and small could get some financing to keep their doors open and to keep their payrolls on track, and in addition, we had to make sure that we didn’t slip into a Great Depression.

Now, we've done that.

Those programs that we put in place worked.

S,o now you’ve got a financial system that is stable.

It’s still not as strong as it was back in 2006, 2007, but it is stabilized.

You’ve got now eight consecutive months of private sector job growth.

Businesses are able to borrow again.

They’re investing again.

They’re making profits again.

That's all the good news.

The challenge is, is that the hole was so deep that a lot of people out there are still hurting, and probably some folks are still having a tough time, and so the question then becomes what can we now put in place to make sure that the trend lines continue in a positive direction, as opposed to going back in the negative direction.

Last week, we got some good news.

After fighting for several months, we finally got a small business tax cut bill in place so that we’re eliminating capital gains for small businesses and startups, making sure that they can get loans, because small businesses are the ones that have been hardest hit in terms of not being able to get capital.

We have put forward proposals, for example, to accelerate investment here in the United States instead of overseas in research and development and plants and equipment that could put people back to work.

So, there are a lot of plans in place that can make improvement, but it’s slow and steady, as opposed to the kind of quick fix that I think a lot of people would like to see.

But, the thing I’ve just got to remind people of is the fact that it took us a decade to get into the problem that we’re in right now.

The Wall Street Journal came out with a report based on Census information that the years from 2001 to 2009, the middle class actually saw their wages decline by 5 percent.

This was before the financial crisis.

So, these have been some long-term trends of the middle class having a lot of problems out there, and what we’ve got to do now it to reverse it, but something that took 10 years to create is going to take a little more time to solve.

The whole reason I ran was because my life is a testimony to the American dream, and everything that we’ve been doing since I came into office is designed to make sure that that American dream continues for future generations.

I think the challenge right now is that I’m thinking about the next generation and there are a lot of folks out there who are thinking about the next election.

If I were making decisions based on November, then I wouldn’t have done some of the things that I did because I knew they weren’t popular.

But, they were the right thing to do, and that's got to be my top priority.
 
So now you’ve got a financial system that is stable.
Stable? When the entire flaky minimal (somewhat less than...) "recovery" is based on outrageous and unsustainable government spending? STABLE? That has to be the biggest lie ever told in the history of politics.
 
Stable? When the entire flaky minimal (somewhat less than...) "recovery" is based on outrageous and unsustainable government spending? STABLE? That has to be the biggest lie ever told in the history of politics.


The financial system and the economy are not the same thing.
 
The financial system and the economy are not the same thing.

tell us...

where did all the bad loans go?

are the derivatives markets still unregulated and off books?

are the hedge funds still unregulated?

The financial system is not stable right now, the idiots in DC and on Wall Street are doing everything they can to make people THINK things are stable (which admittedly is a big factor), but NONE of the problems were resolved. They are still out there....

Foreclosures still rising

Credit still extremely tight

Banks still creating insane derivatives products and trading them off books so no one can see how much risk they are really taking

With unemployment still over 9.5% and no decline in sight... the first two are only going to get worse.

As for Obama touting private sector job growth.... funny how they were focused on OVERALL job growth when the government was adding hundreds of thousands of census jobs, but now they are only looking at PRIVATE sector jobs as those census jobs go away. The labor market is not showing improvement and it certainly won't as long as the idiots in DC continue pushing forth moronic regulations on small business like the 1099 fiasco and higher taxes.
 
:rolleyes:

Remember when 6% unemployment was the "worst economy since the Great Depression"?... Those were the days, when the Democrats wanted to convince you that what they considered full employment under a different President was the "Worst Economy Since The Great Depression!"....

Now, they want to convince me that stagflation means "good times ahead!" That I can't learn from what the Japanese did with this same type of idiotic "stimulus". We know it doesn't work, but I don't think that it is the plan of this Administration to even try to make it work... I believe that it is their ultimate goal to get people to look to the government for relief. Just as I believe that they designed a "health care" bill to fail so they could get their "next step", the ultimate goal, when people demanded a solution from the government who made it worse for them...
 
:rolleyes:

Remember when 6% unemployment was the "worst economy since the Great Depression"?... Those were the days, when the Democrats wanted to convince you that what they considered full employment under a different President was the "Worst Economy Since The Great Depression!"....

Now, they want to convince me that stagflation means "good times ahead!" That I can't learn from what the Japanese did with this same type of idiotic "stimulus". We know it doesn't work, but I don't think that it is the plan of this Administration to even try to make it work... I believe that it is their ultimate goal to get people to look to the government for relief. Just as I believe that they designed a "health care" bill to fail so they could get their "next step", the ultimate goal, when people demanded a solution from the government who made it worse for them...
So, you believe it would have been better to let everything fail and pick up the pieces of the broken economy?

I hear the problem is all these businesses sitting on their cash and not willing to invest in America!!!!! What is that all about and do you believe that is having an impact on recovery?
 
tell us...

where did all the bad loans go?

are the derivatives markets still unregulated and off books?

are the hedge funds still unregulated?

The financial system is not stable right now, the idiots in DC and on Wall Street are doing everything they can to make people THINK things are stable (which admittedly is a big factor), but NONE of the problems were resolved. They are still out there....

Foreclosures still rising

Credit still extremely tight

Banks still creating insane derivatives products and trading them off books so no one can see how much risk they are really taking

With unemployment still over 9.5% and no decline in sight... the first two are only going to get worse.

As for Obama touting private sector job growth.... funny how they were focused on OVERALL job growth when the government was adding hundreds of thousands of census jobs, but now they are only looking at PRIVATE sector jobs as those census jobs go away. The labor market is not showing improvement and it certainly won't as long as the idiots in DC continue pushing forth moronic regulations on small business like the 1099 fiasco and higher taxes.


I was simply helping GL out. I mean, it's one thing to say the financial industry in not stable because they still have tons of shitty assets at inflated values on their books (which not too long ago you used to claim really were quite valuable). That's at least relevant. It's quite another to say that the financial industry is not stable because unemployment is high. That's just stupid.
 
I was simply helping GL out. I mean, it's one thing to say the financial industry in not stable because they still have tons of shitty assets at inflated values on their books (which not too long ago you used to claim really were quite valuable). That's at least relevant. It's quite another to say that the financial industry is not stable because unemployment is high. That's just stupid.

I stated that they were more valuable than the 10-20 cents on the dollar that they were listing at you schmuck.

Side note: The fact that unemployment is high DOES create instability in the financial industry.... who do you think owns the mortgages that are at risk of defaulting due to high unemployment???

Not to mention the fact that the high unemployment puts a damper on consumer spending and thus causes the financial industry to tighten credit to small businesses... which causes more layoffs, which causes more foreclosures, which causes credit to tighten further due to a lack of spending..... and the cycle continues.
 
So, you believe it would have been better to let everything fail and pick up the pieces of the broken economy?

I hear the problem is all these businesses sitting on their cash and not willing to invest in America!!!!! What is that all about and do you believe that is having an impact on recovery?
No, I believe that we should have used tax incentives for hiring rather than grants aimed at solely one industry. Even Ds realize that raising taxes on those who hire is a bad idea and want to extend tax cuts put in place by another President, ones that used to be anathema for everybody in the D category. Imagine if you gave them tax incentives to hire people, made them strong and assured the businesses through legislation rather than the current uncertainty that causes them to hold their cash.
 
No, I believe that we should have used tax incentives for hiring rather than grants aimed at solely one industry. Even Ds realize that raising taxes on those who hire is a bad idea and want to extend tax cuts put in place by another President, ones that used to be anathema for everybody in the D category. Imagine if you gave them tax incentives to hire people, made them strong and assured the businesses through legislation rather than the current uncertainty that causes them to hold their cash.
Tax incentives would be a good idea, but would it save the economy on its own?
 
Tax incentives would be a good idea, but would it save the economy on its own?
Financial incentives work. Would it "save" the economy? Not really designed to do that... it would certainly have more people working now. The biggest portion of what I said that would work to get those companies hiring again is give them a sense of permanence in policy, one that is non-existent now.

One thing we know. Grants to one specific group doesn't "save" the economy, we've already seen stagflation created by poor policy and playing with interest rates. Japan's lost decade shouldn't be lost to our own politicians.
 
Tax incentives would be a good idea, but would it save the economy on its own?
Financial incentives work. Would it "save" the economy? Not really designed to do that... it would certainly have more people working now. The biggest portion of what I said that would work to get those companies hiring again is give them a sense of permanence in policy, one that is non-existent now.

One thing we know. Grants to one specific group doesn't "save" the economy, we've already seen stagflation created by poor policy and playing with interest rates. Japan's lost decade shouldn't be lost to our own politicians.
 
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