5 years of legal POT is devastating Colorado Springs.

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Text Drivers are Killers

Joe Biden - "Time to put Trump in the bullseye."
The legal pot movement is funded by the auto industry. They love all the car crashes. Car crashes mean car sales.


http://gazette.com/editorial-the-sad-anniversary-of-big-commercial-pot-in-colorado/article/1614900

nov 21 2017 This week marks the fifth anniversary of Colorado's decision to sanction the world's first anything-goes commercial pot trade.

Five years later, we remain an embarrassing cautionary tale. Residential neighborhoods throughout Colorado Springs reek of marijuana, as producers fill rental homes with plants.

Five years of retail pot coincide with five years of a homelessness growth rate that ranks among the highest rates in the country. Directors of homeless shelters, and people who live on the streets, tell us homeless substance abusers migrate here for easy access to pot.

Five years of Big Marijuana ushered in a doubling in the number of drivers involved in fatal crashes who tested positive for marijuana, based on research by the pro-legalization Denver Post.

Five years of commercial pot have been five years of more marijuana in schools than teachers and administrators ever feared.

The investigation found an increase in high school drug violations of 71 percent since legalization. School suspensions for drugs increased 45 percent.
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"The legal pot movement is funded by the auto industry." TK #1
"... a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, .... Time makes more converts than reason." Thomas Paine / Common Sense
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For most of American history there was no War on Drugs in general, or War on Marijuana in particular.
Both the Holy Bible, and the United States Constitution affirmatively designate our right to herbs such as marijuana.

That's two different Constitutional grounds for the unConstitutionality of the War on Marijuana:
- Amendment #9, and
- Amendment #1 (the free exercise clause).

"The legal pot movement is funded by the auto industry." TK #1

And the ILLegal pot movement is supported by:
- the prison industrial complex (including both public & private sector labor)
- defense attorneys
- DEA, FBI, State police, county sheriffs, etc

In politics TK, you'll find the status quo virtually always has a constituency. That doesn't make the martial oppression of Drug War right.

And know it or not, believe it or not, like it or not, admit it or not; the notion in our Republic of usurping Liberty for the good of the People is laughable!
 
Why squabble about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Drug War may be the worst scourge known to humanity.
Or Drug War may be the single remaining barrier protecting prosperity from extinction.
OR anywhere in between.

Why would it matter?

It is a Founding principle of the United States of America that Liberty is a:
- Creator endowed
- Constitutionally enumerated
- unalienable right

Do you know what "unalienable" means?

It means: not to be separated, given away, or taken away.

And yet U.S. governments have been usurping this unalienable right of Liberty with Drug War for generations.
Is there any evidence we're better off for it?
"I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of society but the people themselves, and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion." Thomas Jefferson
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Text Drivers are Killers said:
The legal pot movement is funded by the auto industry. They love all the car crashes. Car crashes mean car sales.
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Moronic comment
Five years of retail pot coincide with five years of a homelessness growth rate that ranks among the highest rates in the country. Directors of homeless shelters, and people who live on the streets, tell us homeless substance abusers migrate here for easy access to pot
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.Homeless people cannot afford the more expensive legal weed, so this makes no sense


Five years of Big Marijuana ushered in a doubling in the number of drivers involved in fatal crashes who tested positive for marijuana, based on research by the pro-legalization Denver Post.
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They don't mention that those accident victims also tested positive for alcohol. I'm guessing there's a point?

Legalization of weed does not increase marijuana use. There has never been a shortage of great weed in this country...since Bush 1 left office, that is.
 
PP #5

In general I don't even understand the question.
But in particular the most recent report I recall on that, which may be a few years old, indicated a government revenue boost of $15 $M / year.
So about $75 $M over the half decade time span you inquire about, if the initial figure is correct.

BUT !!

There's substantially more to it than that.
Drug Wars may have sucked about a $Trillion $dollars out of the U.S. economy * since our Founding.

It's not merely the hourly wage of the drug warriors that have been waging this War for all these generations. It's also their pension funds, their healthcare coverage, the equipment they use and abuse in combat.
And the burden on our judicial system, to process suspects.
And the burden on our jail & prison industrial complexes, which have rendered the U.S. the nation with the highest per capita incarceration rate in the Western world.
That's an ignominious distinction for a nation that heralds itself in song as "the land of the free, and the home of the brave."
Drug War makes U.S. hypocrites, premised upon a fiction.

* "Every gun that is made, every warship that is launched, every rocket that is fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children ..." President Dwight D. Eisenhower
 
SmarterthanYou said:
out of curiosity, is your argument then to say that marijuana should still be prohibited even via state law?
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No - but i think driving while drugged should be punished much more severely than it is now. Same With drunk driving. Automatic felony and automatic jail time and automatic loss of license for several years. These are super violent drug crimes. THINK
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
No - but i think driving while drugged should be punished much more severely than it is now. Same With drunk driving. Automatic felony and automatic jail time and automatic loss of license for several years. These are super violent drug crimes. THINK
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THINK? if THC stays in a persons chemical balance for up to 30 days, how do you PROVE someone is under the influence at that particular time of a stop or any alleged accident? THINK
 
"No - but i think driving while drugged should be punished much more severely than it is now. Same With drunk driving. Automatic felony and automatic jail time and automatic loss of license for several years. These are super violent drug crimes. THINK" TK #12
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a) You and I are in absolute accord on the OBJECTIVE: public safety.

b) We may (or may not) diverge on methodology.

Universal standards in law:
- age of majority
- minimum age for driver's license
- minimum age to vote
- minimum age to buy cigarettes
- minimum age to buy booze
- maximum highway speed
- many etc.

Since TK #12 obviously is concerned about motor vehicle law:
Increased speed increases stopping distance.
So setting speed limits is an implicit effort to limit the maximum stopping distance to an adequate safety level.

BUT !!

A 20 year old garbage truck with worn bias-ply tires & and broken suspension can't haul a full load to a stop as quickly as a current model $150K roadster, be it a Porsche, a Lexus, or whatever.

Limiting a new Porsche to the same speed limit as a worn out garbage truck is not done for purpose of logic, or physics.
It's done for convenience of government. "One size fits all."

On DUI:

No two persons reach EXACTLY the same level of intoxication, from EXACTLY the same amount of intoxicant.

Therefore enforcing law on BAC etc. only approximates what's relevant to actual impairment.

A BAC that would leave a non-drinker near stuporous might be shrugged off by a heavy drinker.

So rather than basing it on blood chemistry, why not base it on actual driving competence?
If a driver can prove competence, who the %$#@ cares about blood chemistry?
 
Socialist Democrats owned Congress for more than 4 decades and elected two pot smoking presidents. So why does Pot not enjoy the same status as Alcohol and Tobacco, Liberals???
 
Althea said:
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.Homeless people cannot afford the more expensive legal weed, so this makes no sense


They don't mention that those accident victims also tested positive for alcohol. I'm guessing there's a point?

Legalization of weed does not increase marijuana use. There has never been a shortage of great weed in this country...since Bush 1 left office, that is.
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The best weed was during the Nixon years
 
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