4th f-35 of the year lost

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Hawkeye10

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pilot error, again
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The pilot shortage and their poor training is a thing.......but this plane does not work.....after all this time they have had to figure out how to make it work. We have invested 20 years into this "one plane to do it all".....it has failed just as badly as the Navys "one ship that can do it all" littorals....which turned out to be almost completely useless.....barely used ships that are now being scrapped.
 
Europe/NATO/Finland want it more then we do

Amid Russian aggression, Fort Worth leaders say the F-35 fighter jet’s value is now on display in Europe
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/03/28/fort-worth-f-35-europe/
Beginning earlier this year, western officials publicized eastward F-35 deployments into and around Europe, announced via tweets, press releases and confirmed news reports. There is likely more classified F-35 activity, and aviation experts regularly track online other F-35 sightings in Eastern Europe.

What is known in published news reports is that American F-35s have migrated to Europe. And Western European countries are deploying their own F-35s into allied countries and airspace in proximity to Russia, in places like Bulgaria, Estonia, Lithuania and Romania. Some are American military planes and others are owned by allies, like the Netherlands.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The pilot shortage and their poor training is a thing.......but this plane does not work.....after all this time they have had to figure out how to make it work. We have invested 20 years into this "one plane to do it all".....it has failed just as badly as the Navys "one ship that can do it all" littorals....which turned out to be almost completely useless.....barely used ships that are now being scrapped.
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https://warontherocks.com/2021/11/lessons-from-the-littoral-combat-ship/
 
dukkha said:
Europe/NATO/Finland want it more then we do

Amid Russian aggression, Fort Worth leaders say the F-35 fighter jet’s value is now on display in Europe
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/03/28/fort-worth-f-35-europe/
Beginning earlier this year, western officials publicized eastward F-35 deployments into and around Europe, announced via tweets, press releases and confirmed news reports. There is likely more classified F-35 activity, and aviation experts regularly track online other F-35 sightings in Eastern Europe.

What is known in published news reports is that American F-35s have migrated to Europe. And Western European countries are deploying their own F-35s into allied countries and airspace in proximity to Russia, in places like Bulgaria, Estonia, Lithuania and Romania. Some are American military planes and others are owned by allies, like the Netherlands.
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That does not mean that it works, it might mean wither that these countries still trust what the Americans tell them, or maybe that they dont care that it does not work, they get to look like they are confronting Russia.....its all about the narrative.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The pilot shortage and their poor training is a thing.......but this plane does not work.....after all this time they have had to figure out how to make it work. We have invested 20 years into this "one plane to do it all".....it has failed just as badly as the Navys "one ship that can do it all" littorals....which turned out to be almost completely useless.....barely used ships that are now being scrapped.
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You tell em' Hawkeye! Tell em' how you are the world's leading authority on military Fighter jets, Navy Vessels, Pilot Training, and everythang!

Man-O-Man, if they would of just asked you about all this 20 years ago- you would have set em' straight and on their proper course.

I'm just glad you took a minute to tell us everything you knew about all this! :laugh:
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
That does not mean that it works, it might mean wither that these countries still trust what the Americans tell them, or maybe that they dont care that it does not work, they get to look like they are confronting Russia.....its all about the narrative.
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I didnt say it did, but they did work out the helmet problems -of course the ejector seat doesnt work,
the STEALTH coating bubbles up, and it's only use is a "stand off platform" since it's underpowered for dogfighting..other then that..:palm:

Hell. sell it to the Euros, they are all abuzz with Russiaphobia and their cash is as good as our cash
 
Without working software, the F-35 stealth fighter is a trillion-dollar lawn ornament.

Called “a computer that happens to fly” by one former Air Force chief, with algorithms running everything from basic flight controls to long-range targeting, the F-35 runs off eight million lines of code. That’s actually less than a late-model luxury car like the 2020 Mercedes S-Class, which has over 30 million lines, notes a forthcoming report from a national security thinktank, the Hudson Institute.

Yet, co-authors Jason Weiss and Dan Patt told Breaking Defense that even as private-sector software surges ahead, a Pentagon bureaucracy built to handle industrial-age hardware still struggles to get all the fighter’s code to work
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https://breakingdefense.com/2022/12...are-updates-at-the-speed-of-war-report-finds/
 
dukkha said:
I didnt say it did, but they did work out the helmet problems -of course the ejector seat doesnt work,
the STEALTH coating bubbles up, and it's only use is a "stand off platform" since it's underpowered for dogfighting..other then that..:palm:

Hell. sell it to the Euros, they are all abuzz with Russiaphobia and their cash is as good as our cash
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They almost certainly should be buying Saabs Gripen instead.
 
2 Dec
After touching down at the Air Force base's runway, the stealth fighter's landing gear failed while being towed to the flight line.


"While being towed the front landing gear malfunctioned causing the nose of the aircraft to touch the ground
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It's not yet clear what the electrical issues were, how much damage was done to the aircraft or what the cost will be to repair it.

So far, in 2022, the Marine Corps has reported a total of five Class A aircraft mishaps -- the classification the military uses for its most deadly and most expensive crashes. It's unclear what categorization Thursday's incident will receive,"
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https://www.military.com/daily-news...maged-after-landing-gear-failure-okinawa.html
 
The F-35 is a poorly thought concept of combining the VSTOL attack aircraft with the speedy fighter craft..............and the results are just as expected. sometimes two things can go together very well, and then sometimes they do not.

what a waste of billions.
 
Buying F-35 Fighters ‘Biggest Mistake’ Of Australia; US Jets A ‘Total Disaster’, Can’t ‘Stand Up’ To China

In April, Air Vice-Marshal Leon Phillips, head of the Aerospace Systems Division, informed the Australian parliament’s Foreign Affairs, Defense and Trade Legislation Committee that the government expects to spend a whopping AUD14.6 billion ($10.87 billion) to sustain its Lockheed Martin F-35A Lightning II fleet till 2053.

Before that, in February 2022, budget estimates documents filed by the Australian Department of Defense (DoD) revealed that RAAF’s F-35 Lightning II aircraft would spend less time in the air over the next four years than previously expected, igniting a national debate on the aircraft’s capability and viability.

Flying hours of the F-35 have been revised by 25% in the 2021-22 financial year (FY22) and are slated to be cut down by 17% in FY23, 14% in FY24, and 13% in FY25.

Australian media reports suggested the cause behind the reduction in expected flight hours was supposed to be maintenance issues related to operating the Joint Strike Fighters (JSFs).

The opposition also said that the $16.6 billion fighter jet program was “plagued with issues.” It sought an explanation from the then Defense Minister Peter Dutton about the data in the DoD’s budget estimates documents.
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https://eurasiantimes.com/buying-f-35-fighters-biggest-mistake-of-australia-us-jets/
 
The F-35 lost over South Carolina was pilot error.

It was also a commander.

www.stripes.com

Marines blame pilot error in 2023 crash of F-35 jet that went missing more than a day in South Carolina

Pilot error led to the high-profile crash in 2023 of a F-35B stealth fighter jet near Charleston, S.C., in which the aircraft continued to fly more than 60 miles after the pilot ejected, the Marine Corps concluded.
www.stripes.com www.stripes.com

Regime Media is scrubbing that this was a commander who was after this event relieved of command, but I have heard this on my grapevine and I have no doubt that it is true.
 
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