4 ways America's gambit has failed

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

1. Losing the influence war in the Middle East​

2. Taking US eyes off other strategic goals​

3. Disproportionate economic fallout​

4. Loss of global leadership​

4 ways the war in Iran has weakened the United States in the great power game

China and Russia view the latest Washington intervention in the Middle East as a further decline of the United States’ global power.

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[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

Your upcoming midterm elections seem likely to clip the wings of the majority party, since the economic news is dire.

 

[FastLane]

1. Losing the influence war in the Middle East​

Pfft! Iran attacked their neighbors and now the mid east is against them. Iran is as popular as a turd in a punch bowl.

2. Taking US eyes off other strategic goals​

We can chew gum and walk at the same time.

3. Disproportionate economic fallout​

We are the economic engine of the world.

4. Loss of global leadership​

Sure

4 ways the war in Iran has weakened the United States in the great power game

China and Russia view the latest Washington intervention in the Middle East as a further decline of the United States’ global power.

theconversation.com

 

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

Pfft! Iran attacked their neighbors and now the mid east is against them. Iran is as popular as a turd in a punch bowl.


We can chew gum and walk at the same time.

We are the economic engine of the world.


Sure

Opinions differ. Yours is of little consequence, as I'm sure you already know.

Your economy (and the economies of many other nations) is being devastated.

Now, more than ever, the term "ugly Americans" seems apt.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

1. Losing the influence war in the Middle East​

Too bad for Iran. Why should we care and what's bad about that?

2. Taking US eyes off other strategic goals​

Iran is nothing more than bombing practice for the USAF and USN. They need regular practice.

3. Disproportionate economic fallout​

Yes, it is crippling the Iranian economy, particularly their illicit black markets and smuggling oil out.

4. Loss of global leadership​

Iran never had any global leadership.

 

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

Someone didn't address the author's points in the (linked) article.

 

[Jack Grealish]

On the contrary, I believe that America's international leadership has strengthened. The US has demonstrated its willingness to use force to maintain its imperial status, no matter how costly it may seem. All small and medium-sized countries in the world, except for China and Russia, now face a situation where if the US decides to destroy your country, it can do so directly, and you will receive no protection unless you have some kind of alliance with China—but currently only North Korea can be assured of China's protection. All small and medium-sized countries, in order to survive, must bow down to the US. I believe that in the next 20 years, the US will reshape the landscape of international relations through a series of wars, leveraging its military power.

 

[Jack Grealish]

Remember, the Anglo-Saxons were fearless; they would sacrifice ordinary American soldiers to achieve their goals. Even if 500,000 were killed, those sitting in the White House and the Pentagon wouldn't even blink.

 

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

On the contrary, I believe that America's international leadership has strengthened. The US has demonstrated its willingness to use force to maintain its imperial status, no matter how costly it may seem. All small and medium-sized countries in the world, except for China and Russia, now face a situation where if the US decides to destroy your country, it can do so directly, and you will receive no protection unless you have some kind of alliance with China—but currently only North Korea can be assured of China's protection. All small and medium-sized countries, in order to survive, must bow down to the US. I believe that in the next 20 years, the US will reshape the landscape of international relations through a series of wars, leveraging its military power.

An interesting opinion. What is it based upon?

 

[Jack Grealish]

An interesting opinion. What is it based upon?

It's based on a simple and clear balance of military power. The world is rapidly returning to a principle of absolute might, just as has happened throughout history. Don't think that vague concepts like values and international image can stop America. Trump's reckless actions have opened a window for America. All subsequent presidents, whether Democrat or Republican, will continue along Trump's path.

To add, China once thought that Biden's rise to power in 2020 would reverse Trump's extremely confrontational strategy towards China. But the reality is that Biden fully inherited Trump's confrontational policy towards China, and even went further. I repeat, don't assume that just because Americans are now criticizing Trump's reckless wartime actions, their next president will fix the problem. No, they won't. Once the door to the use of force is opened, they will continue to use force.

 

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

It's based on a simple and clear balance of military power. The world is rapidly returning to a principle of absolute might, just as has happened throughout history. Don't think that vague concepts like values and international image can stop America. Trump's reckless actions have opened a window for America. All subsequent presidents, whether Democrat or Republican, will continue along Trump's path.

To add, China once thought that Biden's rise to power in 2020 would reverse Trump's extremely confrontational strategy towards China. But the reality is that Biden fully inherited Trump's confrontational policy towards China, and even went further. I repeat, don't assume that just because Americans are now criticizing Trump's reckless wartime actions, their next president will fix the problem. No, they won't. Once the door to the use of force is opened, they will continue to use force.

America hasn't gained a military victory in almost a century.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The Asians now see that America's promise to keep them safe were BullShit.....they have no choice but to make their way forwards with China and Russia.

 

[Hawkeye10]

America hasn't gained a military victory in almost a century.

It has pissed itself away with endless wars of Choice....a classic mistake of empires....currently losing two wars the same time.

 

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

The Asians now see that America's promise to keep them safe were BullShit.....they have no choice but to make their way forwards with China and Russia.

No one with any sense has trusted American promises in many years.

The very nature of the government precludes any possibility of a lasting commitment.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

America hasn't gained a military victory in almost a century.

Let's see:

El Salvadorian civil war (1979-1995)
Invasion of Granada (1983)
Strait of Hormuz "tanker war" (1987-88)
Invasion of Panama (1989-90)
Gulf War I (1990-91)
Intervention in ex-Yugoslav civil wars (1992-2000)

Anything newer is ongoing.

 

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

Let's see:

El Salvadorian civil war (1979-1995)
Invasion of Granada (1983)
Strait of Hormuz "tanker war" (1987-88)
Invasion of Panama (1989-90)
Gulf War I (1990-91)
Intervention in ex-Yugoslav civil wars (1992-2000)

Anything newer is ongoing.

Laughable.

America provided billions in economic/military aid, training, and advisors to the Salvadoran government against FMLN guerrillas (to block a perceived communist takeover), but there was no large-scale direct U.S. combat role. The war ended in a negotiated stalemate via the 1992 Chapultepec Peace Accords (UN-mediated), with neither side militarily defeating the other.

The Grenadian raid was a rescue of US citizens from a college campus. Hardly the "Battle of the Bulge".

"Tanker War" was hardly a victory, because here we are, again.

The kidnapping of Manuel Noriega worked so well, the US did it gain to Maduro. Hardly a "military victory". More like a smash and grab.

The first Gulf War left Hussein in power. Once again, no follow-through. Pathetic.

The Bosnian adventure was an aerial bombing campaign prosecuted by NATO and the UN. Likewise Kosovo.

You didn't mention Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan.

Uncle Sam likes to kill a few brown/poor people before they cut and run (usually due to political opposition at home).

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Laughable.

America provided billions in economic/military aid, training, and advisors to the Salvadoran government against FMLN guerrillas (to block a perceived communist takeover), but there was no large-scale direct U.S. combat role. The war ended in a negotiated stalemate via the 1992 Chapultepec Peace Accords (UN-mediated), with neither side militarily defeating the other.

The Grenadian raid was a rescue of US citizens from a college campus. Hardly the "Battle of the Bulge".

"Tanker War" was hardly a victory, because here we are, again.

The kidnapping of Manuel Noriega worked so well, the US did it gain to Maduro. Hardly a "military victory". More like a smash and grab.

The first Gulf War left Hussein in power. Once again, no follow-through. Pathetic.

The Bosnian adventure was an aerial bombing campaign prosecuted by NATO and the UN. Likewise Kosovo.

You didn't mention Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan.

Uncle Sam likes to kill a few brown/poor people before they cut and run (usually due to political opposition at home).

Trivial objections fallacy.

 

[Hawkeye10]

No one with any sense has trusted American promises in many years.

The very nature of the government precludes any possibility of a lasting commitment.

How do you look at someone who loses all of their wars and runs up a trillion dollars in debt every 100 days and say "Ya, there is my leader?"

Not just dumb, but willful ignorance.

 

[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]

How do you look at someone who loses all of their wars and runs up a trillion dollars in debt every 100 days and say "Ya, there is my leader?"

Not just dumb, but willful ignorance.

Some might say "trivial objections fallacy".

 

[TOP]

Opinions differ. Yours is of little consequence, as I'm sure you already know.

Your economy (and the economies of many other nations) is being devastated.

Now, more than ever, the term "ugly Americans" seems apt.

His opinions are valid though..

And yours are way off base which is understandable...