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    I would like universal health care for America. There would be no private health insurance business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Can you state one thing you believe that will make our country better?

    This is a real question. Can you state the most important thing you want for our nation.
    for our government to operate within the confines of it's limitations in the constitution
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    for our government to operate within the confines of it's limitations in the constitution
    Okay. What is the government doing now that violates the Constitution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Trumtards dead. The rest is commentary. There is no OUR country with them powerful and in it.
    hey, dickhole, there are some of us NOT trumpers that still don't agree with your shitty fucking ideas of what a good/great country looks like..........so this isn't YOUR country, it's OUR country.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    This country is never going to be a Democratic Republic and our elections will never be fair until every vote in this country counts.

    The UNITED STATES HAS A PHONY DEMOCRACY- BECAUSE OUR ELECTIONS ARE RIGGED!

    The system has been rigged ever since some ELITIST WHITE NATIONALIST SANCTIMONIOUS RELIGIOUS ZEALOT SEXIST ASSHOLES THOUGHT UP THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE AND MADE THAT THE LAW OF THE LAND.

    IT NEEDS TO BE IMMEDIATELY ABOLISHED AND THE POPULAR VOTE MUST BECOME THE NEW LAW OF THE LAND.

    NO MORE FUCKING DELEGATES!

    NO MORE FUCKING RACIST EXCUSES!
    worst idea ever. and every fucking vote does count, nimrod
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    If I may. Universal voting with no Electoral College. You want America to have a popular vote to elect public officials.
    death of the USA. good job
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    worst idea ever. and every fucking vote does count, nimrod
    Why is the popular vote not a good thing? Why is the Electoral College needed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    So you want more pollutants in the air and water. I take it you mean they will not harm people.
    No, I want reasonable levels of pollution allowed. The idea of "Zero tolerance," that is eliminating all pollution is a fool's errand. It can't happen if we want to continue to have a technologically advanced society. But that's what the EPA shoots for along with most (and mostly Leftist) environmental groups.

    There are other examples. Back in the early 90's during the Clinton administration the EPA lowered allowable arsenic in drinking water from 50 ppb to 10 ppb. For many parts of the US who rely primarily on ground water (eg., water from wells) this saw their water bill double to triple overnight for no discernable increase in public health. In fact, the only reason it occurred was because new (and expensive) test equipment was now available that could even accurately measure 10 ppb arsenic in water.
    Water companies and suppliers were forced to spend tens to hundreds of thousands on the equipment and even more on filtration systems and ongoing testing in order to comply with this rule. Again, this had no discernable effect on public health.

    Sure, at a hundred to a thousand times the 50 ppb level, arsenic in drinking water is a real health threat. Over 20 to 30 years of drinking water at that elevated level--like in Bangladesh--there are serious and widespread health problems. But at 50 ppb the US was facing no such issue with drinking water.

    But the EPA pushed out this rule at a cost of hundreds of millions annually nationwide in more stringent testing and filtration for no economic return on the investment.

    The question for you is How much pollution should we allow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    death of the USA. good job
    Why is the popular vote the death of the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    worst idea ever. and every fucking vote does count, nimrod
    NO! EVERY VOTE DOES NOT COUNT GOMER!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Okay. What is the government doing now that violates the Constitution?
    gun laws, for one. supreme court making up judicial doctrines that have no constitutional basis, for another. interpreting the constitution instead of just deciding cases based upon the plain text of it.

    allowing government entities to violate the rights of citizens based upon made up references that don't exist and that they have no power to make anyway
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Why is the popular vote not a good thing? Why is the Electoral College needed?
    when the new federal government was created, it was designed for checks and balances to provide equal representation among 3 entities.
    1. the people
    2. the states
    3. the nation

    using the popular vote reduces equal representation to the tyranny of the majority. THAT, the founders surely did not want as based upon their writings
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    gun laws, for one. supreme court making up judicial doctrines that have no constitutional basis, for another. interpreting the constitution instead of just deciding cases based upon the plain text of it.

    allowing government entities to violate the rights of citizens based upon made up references that don't exist and that they have no power to make anyway
    The second amendment does not say the government must allow any weapon with no limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    NO! EVERY VOTE DOES NOT COUNT GOMER!
    wrong, doofus. every vote counts and you know it.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    The second amendment does not say the government must allow any weapon with no limit.
    the 2nd Amendment says 'shall not be infringed'. Along with every single founding fathers comments and commentaries that lead up to, and after, ratification make it clear that the federal government was to have zero authority over the weapons of the people. This has been shown to you numerous times.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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