anatta (12-02-2018)
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anatta (12-02-2018)
I'm sure you're familiar with Pax Americana? It's the world order we set up as the lone superpower after WWII.
21 st century Chinese hegemony( S. China Sea, etc.) is a good reason for it to continue.
Even China's BRI initiative is set up to keep China as the central power, since they are in it literally to establish their own world order replacing the existing.
like anything else China does - it does it because it benefits China - not any trade partners
( unless by incidental coincidence)
I'm completely with you on the middle east however. Our naval base for the 5th fleet is one thing-
Syrian land troops are completely different - and bad news.
Syria is a Russian client state as well -why are we even there? The standard response is to "check Iran"
but that's ludicrous. we are never going to get into a shooting war with Qods force or even Shi'a militias.
Also our interests like meddling in Syria,or the great disaster of Libya interventionism/regime change
comes from our arrogance we can manipulate states to our advantages.
Of course it never works out that way - again Libya/Iraq being the prime examples
Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
________
Cold War 2.0 Russia hysteria is turning people’s brains into guacamole.
We’ve got to find a way to snap out of the propaganda trance
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Buddha: "trust the person who seeks truth and mistrust the person who claims he has found it "
1.2.3.4.5.6.7. All Good Children Go to Heaven
MBS and Putin, high fiving their cucking of Don and america on the world stage.
cancel2 2022 (12-02-2018)
a) U.S. national security reasons, as ISIL is regarded as a national threat."Syria is a Russian client state as well -why are we even there?" a #32
b) Humanitarian and political reasons, as Assad is a bad guy, and we have friends in the neighborhood, Israel and Jordan for obvious examples.
"It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18
kudzu (12-03-2018)
Looks to me like Trump caved to China.
The problem is you have a habit of prematurely spiking the ball in the end zone, and exaggerating, overplaying, and hyping Trump's ability to conduct international negotiations and agreements.
I mean, Trump basically made you look like a fool when you prematurely spiked the ball in the end zone on his overhyped and largely meaningless attempts to reign in North Korea.
"There is no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea!" - Donald Trump, June 2018
cancel2 2022 (12-02-2018)
kudzu (12-03-2018)
caved?? ROFL.
even the G-20 members agreed on WTO reforms ( read China as a "developing country" terms)!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.7ff60061c63b
Trump and Xi agreed to “immediately” begin talks on Chinese industrial policies, including coercive licensing of U.S. technology, trade secret theft and non-tariff trade barriers.
Xi as saying he is “open to approving” Qualcomm’s $44 billion takeover of NXP Semiconductors, which the American company had abandoned in July after failing to secure Chinese regulatory approvals
China purchases of what the White House called a “very substantial” amount of American farm, energy and industrial goods.
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you would recall Trump said FROM THE VERY BEGINNING-
he can't make Kim Jong-un do anything. he can only use carrots and sticks.
If Trump is guilty of hyperbole about stopping missile threats (etc.) i'll give him a pass considering that even Obama said NK was the biggest threat facing the US when Trump came in.
certainly the situation is much better if not solved
cancel2 2022 (12-02-2018)
Doesn't change the fact that you have a history of prematurely spiking the football, and declaring premature victory for Trump.
I think Trump is an incompetent dunce, who is easily played. So, once again, you should be more deliberative before doing a victory dance for Trump - by keeping in mind how foolish your North Korean victory dances look in hindsight.
cancel2 2022 (12-02-2018)
actually I myself do not. While I certainly celebrated the reductions in tensions, stopping of missile testing and other promises; I' ve said from the very beginning NK could just be stalling-
stringing it out to get past Trump
I know you don't want to hear this but: Trump is setting up some long gains with China, NK.
Remember please these are long term problems dropped into his lap by inaction and poor choices by previous POTUS.
Trump is doing everything possible to solve and mitigate them -whether you hate Trump or not,
that should be recognized
cancel2 2022 (12-02-2018)
a #38
Trump is a buffoon.
"Nobody knows the system better than me." "Which is why I alone can fix it." presidential candidate Trump 16/07/21 from the campaign podium
And then again after our Republican controlled government failed at their long-promised "repeal & replace":
“Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated.” President Trump
"It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18
Meanwhile, Trump wanders aimlessly.
Fentoine Lum (12-02-2018)
d7 #40
There have been shysters infesting this planet for millennia. That's not fake news. It's old news, meaning not news at all.
Why the Republicans put this one in the white house may remain one of the most baffling mysteries of human nature for all time. Trump isn't fit to be assistant manager on the swing shift at Piggly Wiggly's. Handing him the nuclear launch codes was injudicious.
"It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18
there is a little FB group of old Bill Maher posters I'm in from way way back when Bill was on HBO and had a message board there.
I post topics a bit -but they are all lib/Trump haters for the most part and I don't get many comments in return.
( Althea who posts here does.. on occasion if we get into it)....anyways....
I just posted this: First Step Act
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.282b771294a3
It’s rare to see a broad mix of Democrats, Republicans, centrists, libertarians, the American Civil Liberties Union and President Trump all on the same page. But that’s the case with the First Step Act, an ambitious sentencing reform bill five years in the making.
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I wonder if there will be comment. Just like I wonder what BAC would do ( since we are cross talking board members -and I'm not to say that about Cypress);as this help reduce sentence disparity of crack cocaine felons
in Federal Prison..
are they (Congressional opposition) capable of acting for the common good?
or is TDS the mandate?
He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine
Cypress (12-03-2018)
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