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    Default State Case done, I think Rittenhouse is NG.

    They didn’t prove it!
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    LOCK HIM UP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    They didn’t prove it!
    Seems obvious. He went there to kill people.

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    Jarod = Not Woke.

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    tried fucking telling you, but NOOOOOO!!!!!! you idiots think you always know better.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    I had no idea you guys were on the jury.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Seems obvious. He went there to kill people.
    Why do you have to lie and talk crazy all the time? Its not getting you anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Seems obvious. He went there to kill people.
    you have proof of this, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you have proof of this, right?

    Ofc not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    They didn’t prove it!
    I don't think there is any doubt he killed those people. The only question is whether he can claim self defense.

    (2) Provocation affects the privilege of self-defense as follows:
    (a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant.
    Since Rittenhouse was illegally carrying a gun, he has to have exhausted every means of escape.

    Then since the jury can only rely on evidence presented to them, the only way they can know Rittenhouse felt his life was threatened is if he testifies. Then he has to testify that he intended to shoot all the people he shot or he is not entitled to the self defense claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    I don't think there is any doubt he killed those people. The only question is whether he can claim self defense.



    Since Rittenhouse was illegally carrying a gun, he has to have exhausted every means of escape.

    Then since the jury can only rely on evidence presented to them, the only way they can know Rittenhouse felt his life was threatened is if he testifies. Then he has to testify that he intended to shoot all the people he shot or he is not entitled to the self defense claim.
    grosskreutz already satisfied any requirement for rittenhouse to justify fearing for his life................he does not have to testify
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    grosskreutz already satisfied any requirement for rittenhouse to justify fearing for his life................he does not have to testify
    Grosskruetz was there when Rittenhouse shot Joseph Rosenbaum?

    I think you are confused about the sequence of events. Rittenhouse can't claim Grosskruetz attack over 100 yards away and minutes later made him shoot Rosenbaum in self defense. No reasonable person would accept that as evidence of why Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Grosskruetz was there when Rittenhouse shot Joseph Rosenbaum?

    I think you are confused about the sequence of events. Rittenhouse can't claim Grosskruetz attack over 100 yards away and minutes later made him shoot Rosenbaum in self defense. No reasonable person would accept that as evidence of why Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum.
    I think you are confused on how the self defense laws will be interpreted. If rittenhouse shot rosenbaum with no justification, why on earth would anyone dare pursue such and armed and murderous individual? watching you plebes prescribe a superhuman level of courage to these riotous and violent individuals is almost hilarious
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    One kill shot was in the back. Tough to claim SD. He is being nailed with 6 charges. he will not escape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    They didn’t prove it!
    Yeah, I agree. I'm interested in seeing how many witnesses they call for the Defense. I don't think they need many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    One kill shot was in the back. Tough to claim SD. He is being nailed with 6 charges. he will not escape.
    says someone who knows nothing about reasonable objectiveness and self defense.............you'll learn though
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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