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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    There is no tap dancing. If you have a conflicting evidence, present it.
    Science does not use supporting evidence. All theories of science must be falsifiable. The theory of evolution is not a theory of science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Absence of evidence? WTF is that Christian fool talking about. Sure can't be evolution of man.
    Science does not use supporting evidence. Only religions do that. The Theory of Evolution is not a theory of science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    There is no "either/or proposition" in science. You have hypotheses and evidence. That's it.
    Nonsense statement. Science isn't a decision. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Hypothesis come out of theories, not theories out of hypothesis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    You do realize you are speaking to a purported heath care professional who refuses to mask or vaccinate because he thinks they don't work, right?
    So I assume you wear and mask AND you have been vaccinated.

    So since you are wearing a mask, you figure the vaccination doesn't work?
    Since you want someone else to also wear a mask, you figure your own mask doesn't work?

    You are locked in paradoxes dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nonsense statement. Science isn't a decision. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Hypothesis come out of theories, not theories out of hypothesis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nonsense statement. Science isn't a decision. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Hypothesis come out of theories, not theories out of hypothesis.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Here are two famous examples:

    In physics, aether theories (also known as ether theories) propose the existence of a medium, a space-filling substance or field as a transmission medium for the propagation of electromagnetic or gravitational forces

    The speed of light is constant

    Guess which one got destroyed?
    Both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    So I assume you wear and mask AND you have been vaccinated.

    So since you are wearing a mask, you figure the vaccination doesn't work?
    Since you want someone else to also wear a mask, you figure your own mask doesn't work?

    You are locked in paradoxes dude.
    You're a wackadoodle, dude. The COVID vaccine protects against COVID, not the flu or whatever nasty bugs you are spreading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Well a of course. But how the fuck, or why the fuck does EMR behave as a wave (in addition to particle) if there is no medium?
    Last I checked surfers need water.
    See Maxwell's theories. He discusses this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Science does not use supporting evidence. All theories of science must be falsifiable. The theory of evolution is not a theory of science.
    you're an idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    No one who looks at the fossil record, and the four million year progression of hominids from Austapithicus to anatomically modern humans has the slightest problem understanding homo sapien sapiens evolved from earlier forms of hominids.
    You don't get to speak for everyone. You are not God.

    There is no genealogical information in fossils.

    Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Acknowledging scientific uncertainty and asking well framed questions is being a skeptic.

    Denying evidence right in front of one's face is being a denier.
    Science does not use supporting evidence. Only religions do that.
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    I have no idea what the precise relationship is between. Austapithicus, Homo habilis, Homo erectus, Homo sapiens meanderthalis, and Homo sapien sapiens is.
    Understandable. It is unknown.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It is an are of active research, and the odds are there was no one simple stepwise evolutionary genealogy, but a mosaic of inbreeding and cross pollination between archaic human subspecies or variants.
    So your religion is still trying to define relationships here?
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    But there is not a single reasonable person who could look at the four million year record of archaic human variants leading up to anatomically modern humans, and not be able to recognize evolutionary progression is in play.
    You do not get to speak for everyone. You are not God.

    Omniscience fallacy. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Move over, DNA: ancient proteins are starting to reveal humanity’s history

    Proteins dating back more than one million years have been extracted from some fossils, and could help to answer some difficult questions about archaic humans.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01986-x
    A religious 'answer' maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    All areas of science include subjectivity, opinion, and speculation.
    NONE of them. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. There is subjectivity, there is no opinion, there is no voting bloc, there is no speculation. Science is not a casino.
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    Repeatability and self-correction are generally what set science apart from other intellectual endeavors.
    No. Falsifiability is what sets science theories apart from any other theory.
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    Fossils are hard, tangible data.
    WRONG. Fossils are image of animals and plants in stone.
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    They can be directly observed, measured, compared, tested.
    For what? Size? Weight? Meh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The higgs boson, quarks, and quantum entanglement cannot be observed or even directly detected. No one one has ever seen them. We can only infer their existence by indirect detection and higher mathematics.
    Since you deny mathematics, algebra is higher mathematics for you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I am pretty sure anatomically modern homo sapiens did not overlap in time with homo erectus.
    Speculation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    To the extent we have homo erectus DNA, it was not by direct procreation, but passed down a genetic pathway through intermediate variants of archaic humans.
    Speculation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I do not see how a reasonable person, using their mental faculties of induction and inference, could possibly look at the four million year record of a progression from archaic human variants up to anatomically modern homo sapiens and still declare that biological evolution is in grave doubt.
    You don't get to speak for everyone. You are not God. You only get to speak for you.

    Omnisicience fallacy. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Theists are fighting a losing battle trying to fit God in the gaps of various and sundry scientific theories.
    No theory is a gap. Science does not have any theories about God. They are not falsifiable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Those gaps are always closing.
    Void argument fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    A better question theists could pose, is where did the universe's laws of physics come from?
    Us.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Why does order rather than chaos underlie them?
    Because we design them that way.
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    And why is there something rather than nothing?
    So a moron like can ask.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Those are genuine metaphysical questions, and if I were looking for providential design those are the questions I would ask.
    Enjoy.
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