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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    You misunderstood. The proposed definition would mean the word could only actually apply to a single thing in all of history. It's a bit like saying that the definition of "mammal" is "a dog wearing a yellow bandana and catching frisbees during the half-time show of the Arkansas division one state championship football game." That's a silly definition. So, what would you propose as a more serious definition of "collusion"?
    compared to the definition demmycrats use, "a dog wearing a yellow bandana and catching frisbees" would be more serious.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    compared to the definition demmycrats use, "a dog wearing a yellow bandana and catching frisbees" would be more serious.....
    You're afraid to answer. I get that. If I were out-of-my-league, mentally, the way you are, maybe I would be afraid to engage with such questions, too. But, please, try to find the courage. I promise to be gentle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    You're afraid I'm a fucking idiot
    its not fear.......its assurance.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    its not fear.......
    Everyone in the forum can see how frightened you are. But trust me, you'll never find your courage if you don't push yourself outside your comfort zone. Step up and engage in the substantive debate. I promise to go easy on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    Everyone in the forum can see how frightened you are. But trust me, you'll never find your courage if you don't push yourself outside your comfort zone. Step up and engage in the substantive debate. I promise to go easy on you.
    lol......I think if I was frightened I wouldn't post.......meanwhile, where is there a substantive debate?......we've been discussing what collusion means for two years........nobody in the Mueller investigation even pretends its an issue any more.......why did you even bring it up?........

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    throw your dog a frisbee and show us some evidence of collusion......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Comparing the assholes who support Donald Trump to the assholes who supported Adolf Hitler in 1930's Germany...is not only a valid argument...IT IS ONE THAT MUST BE MADE TO MAKE A VALID ASSESSMENT OF WHAT IS GOING ON HERE.

    Yeah...you assholes don't like it.

    YOU SHOULDN'T. It tells you things about yourselves you should despise.
    Godwin's law

    There is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress.[7] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.[8]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
    I've also seen Obama and Bush Jr. compared to Hitler. lol
    Probably every president is at one time or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    lol......I think if I was frightened I wouldn't post......
    No, what you'd do is post, but cower from substantive engagement by trying to change the subject, like you just did. But there's no reason to be this frightened. Besides, you'll never get better at thinking unless you practice.

    where is there a substantive debate?
    Half of it is right here, in this thread. I provided a detailed definition and illustrated how the established facts fit the definition. You, on the other hand, are too scared to engage, so you refuse to provide a serious definition that we could look at to see whether collusion occurred. Instead, you'd like to hide behind childish taunts.

    why did you even bring it up?........
    You lost track of the thread, pumpkin. I didn't bring it up. Arminius did, in the very first post, where Arminius was pushing the mindless right-wing talking point about Trump-Russia collusion claims being "likely false" (when, using any normal definition of "collusion," the fact the Russians and top people in the Trump campaign colluded has been very firmly established).

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    I've also seen Obama and Bush Jr. compared to Hitler. lol
    Probably every president is at one time or another.
    Fuck Godwin. He doesn't get a vote on my posts, Anonymoose.

    In any case...the comparison of the people who continue to support Donald Trump...with the people who continued to support Adolf Hitler is reasonable and appropriate.

    I have never compared any president to Adolf Hitler...and I am not even comparing Donald Trump (right here) to Adolf Hitler.

    My comments were made about HIS SUPPORTERS.

    Frankly, a comparison of Trump to Hitler would have Trump coming up considerably short compared with Adolf Hitler on intellect and speaking ability...which are two important ingredients in leadership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post

    My comments were made about HIS SUPPORTERS.

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    Just curious. Why do you and most other dims consider anybody not supporting 100% of democratic party principles a supporter of Trump? I just don't follow that logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Just curious.
    That's an unexpected, but welcome, improvement.

    Why do you and most other dims consider anybody not supporting 100% of democratic party principles a supporter of Trump?
    First answer why you constantly ask question with absurd predicates?

    You don't seem to be stupid...or at least, not morbidly stupid.

    So why do you ask questions with such obviously absurd predicates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post


    [B]First answer why you constantly ask question with absurd predicates?
    Agreed, it's absurd but I pose the question because I actually support a few democratic party principles. Also I support some of Trump's positions, not all, yet you people constantly label me a Trump supporter. Not that I care, I just find it hypocritical coming from the party of tolerance supposedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Hey, BTO. Who are you picking in big game tonight? The line is Alabama by 5. I say Alabama by 3.
    Can they both lose lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Agreed, it's absurd but I pose the question because I actually support a few democratic party principles. Also I support some of Trump's positions, not all, yet you people constantly label me a Trump supporter. Not that I care, I just find it hypocritical coming from the party of tolerance supposedly.
    You don’t understand TDS lol.

    TDS demands utter compliance to the proposition that Trump=bad. There’s no hedging the bet, splitting the difference or room for compromise. Trump wants a wall; therefore, the wall is immoral. Trump pulls out of Syria; therefore, Trump is Neville Chamberlain and the neocons are no longer vile ideologues.

    TDS an absolutist doctrine that brooks no dissent: that’s why they mistake you for a Trump supporter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Agreed, it's absurd but I pose the question because I actually support a few democratic party principles.
    Okay...but keep in mind that I am not a Democrat.

    Also I support some of Trump's positions, not all, yet you people constantly label me a Trump supporter.
    Fine with me. If I "label you a Trump supporter" please feel free to consider it to be "in my opinion you are not opposing Trump sufficiently" instead.

    I have contempt and scorn for people who continue to support Donald Trump.

    Ahhh...I also have contempt and scorn for people who do not oppose him sufficiently.

    Not that I care, I just find it hypocritical coming from the party of tolerance supposedly.
    Take that up with them.

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