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    Quote Originally Posted by WitoldPilecki View Post
    Modern Cspitalism which we are using.

    Comes largely from dirty Scots like Hume & Adam Smith.

    I think you overestimate how Capitalist many early societies were.

    Even if some aspects stood.
    if we didn't have risk and reward there would be no one who chose to run a business.
    If we didn't have risk and reward there would be no innovations unless we stumbled upon them by chance.

    That means no consumer goods for you, and no internet, and no one to listen to your inanities

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arks&sparka View Post
    when the government steals your wealth that is communal ownership of the means of production because you don't own it anymore. The government said you can't.
    No, because you still own your business. In Social Democrat societies, wealth is redistributed through social programs, but you can still have a private business. You can also still become rich, even with higher taxes.

    you can't have a society or a community which is the root word in communism without government. The principle of communal ownership requires a governing principle and something to enforce that.
    The idea is that the community will be united by ideology. I think this might work in a very very small scale, like maybe among a hundred people. I don't think it's possible on a large scale, which is one of the reasons I'm a Social Democrat, not a Communist.

    you're saying that the government should force communal ownership of wealth that's what redistribution means the government takes from someone to give to whomever they deem worthy of it.
    No, I'm saying the government should have generous social programs like universal healthcare and UBI. I don't want to eliminate private property and I don't want the government to give it to whomever they want.

    All you're doing is saying all these stupid steps make it somehow not communism. I don't believe you.
    No, I'm saying what makes it not Communism is that there would still be a government and private property.
    If you're going to call any form of wealth redistribution "Communism," then you don't know what Communism is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WitoldPilecki View Post
    I told you why Capitalists diminished wages for Milkennials.

    You called me a Millennial cry baby.

    WTF?

    Do you have any self awareness even?
    Yes I know what you told me. You made a claim without evidence, I dismissed it without evidence.

    Instead of throwing a little fit like a millennial cry baby get cracking on that evidence.

    If not your claim still dismissed I'm not going to dress it any more than that because I don't need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    if we didn't have risk and reward there would be no one who chose to run a business.
    If we didn't have risk and reward there would be no innovations unless we stumbled upon them by chance.

    That means no consumer goods for you, and no internet, and no one to listen to your inanities
    Ah.
    You see.

    The Internet is by the USA government.

    So are Satellites a invention of Soviet government.

    Both are why I can use my internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WitoldPilecki View Post
    Ah.
    You see.

    The Internet is by the USA government.

    So are Satellites a invention of Soviet government.

    Both are why I can use my internet.
    you would not have a consumer device to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arks&sparka View Post
    Yes I know what you told me. You made a claim without evidence, I dismissed it without evidence.

    Instead of throwing a little fit like a millennial cry baby get cracking on that evidence.

    If not your claim still dismissed I'm not going to dress it any more than that because I don't need to.
    So why are Millennial wages so much lower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    you would not have a consumer device to use.
    Never said I'm fully against Capitalisn.

    Induvidualists seem tp struggle having black & white one track minded short sightedness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WitoldPilecki View Post
    Never said I'm fully against Capitalisn.

    Induvidualists seem tp struggle having black & white one track minded short sightedness.
    whatever dude. you squirm all over the place when pressed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arks&sparka View Post
    Yes I know what you told me. You made a claim without evidence, I dismissed it without evidence.

    Instead of throwing a little fit like a millennial cry baby get cracking on that evidence.

    If not your claim still dismissed I'm not going to dress it any more than that because I don't need to.
    Millennials should be angry investing about 10 times more in education for 20% less wages .


    Would you pay 10 times more for 20% less Pizza?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    whatever dude. you squirm all over the place when pressed
    I'm anti-Communism & anti-Libertarianism too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WitoldPilecki View Post
    Millennials should be angry investing about 10 times more in education for 20% less wages .


    Would you pay 10 times more for 20% less Pizza?
    so get a trade. the problem with all youse going to college is it devalues the degree
    ( supply and demand -another aspect of capitalism )

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    Quote Originally Posted by WitoldPilecki View Post
    I'm anti-Communism & anti-Libertarianism too.
    whatever. I find your only constant characteristic is confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    so get a trade. the problem with all youse going to college is it devalues the degree
    ( supply and demand -another aspect of capitalism )
    Productivity is way up since 1970 so are Stocks & CEO salaries.

    But millennials make 20% less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    whatever. I find your only constant characteristic is confused
    I'm consistently for Light Socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WitoldPilecki View Post
    Productivity is way up since 1970 so are Stocks & CEO salaries.

    But millennials make 20% less.
    too many college degrees -supply and demand devalues their worth.

    get a trade. be your own boss, become your own capitalist. get rich and quit bitching

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