Djinn (05-08-2021), Guno צְבִי (05-09-2021), ThatOwlWoman (05-09-2021)
Djinn (05-08-2021), Guno צְבִי (05-09-2021), ThatOwlWoman (05-09-2021)
Althea (05-09-2021), Guno צְבִי (05-09-2021), ThatOwlWoman (05-09-2021)
To Althea: Was it a waste when RR won the Cold War without firing a shot? In short: The Soviet Union was a Third World country with a First World Military, yet they could not compete against our military because of the money RR spent rebuilding a depleted military after the Democrat Party gave their own country a political defeat in Vietnam. (The U.S. military never lost a battle in Vietnam.)
To Djinn: Biden’s infrastructure plan is doublespeak for creating parasite government jobs, while the U.S. military budget is 3.4 percent of the GDP.
That which free people call a police force is called an army in a dictatorship. Once the threat of cross-border wars has been laid to rest, every national army must transform itself into a police force committed to protecting the ruling class, and suppressing private sector liberties. Why is that significant? Answer: A professional soldier serves a higher calling than does a policeman.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...34#post2980134
Keep the difference between an army and a police force in mind if you take the time to analyze this chart:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...S?locations=US
Finally, American Communists (the Democrat Party) clearly want China’s military superior to ours.
Parenthetically, liberals always put their tax dollar demands above the needs of the military-industrial complex. In fact, the Parasite Class’ media- education-entertainment complex is ripping this country apart, while Eisenhower’s military-industrial complex defends this country. Listen to what he said:
Ike was correct. The military-industrial complex is necessary, while the media-education-entertainment complex is neither necessary, nor good for the country.
Finally, every time the next budget is debated Democrats swear the military budget needed to defend the nation is not an ethical ENTITLEMENT. Think about that in relation to the political power of the Parasite Class and their philosophical entitlements.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...26#post2879026
The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer
The U.S has been sent packing in every military engagement we've incited since the end of WW2.
Time for us to realize the high tech toys cannot win wars anymore. In fact, we're getting attacked every day in cyberspace, while the MIC wastes billions on obsolete weaponry.
Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
Guno צְבִי (05-09-2021), ThatOwlWoman (05-09-2021)
Your argument makes no sense. The first half of your argument is a criticism of government jobs. And the second half concerns how much is spent on the military.
To address each - government jobs are not automatically "bad." Our infrastructure is crumbling, and we badly need jobs to shore it up. And there's the obvious issue that the U.S. military is not only a massive source of government jobs - but it's the largest employer in the world, providing 3.2 million government jobs.
As to the GDP - I'm not checking your figures, but Biden's plan costs less than 1/3 that of the military. So if the military is 3.4% of the GDP, then Biden's infrastructure plan is about 1% of the GDP.
Guno צְבִי (05-09-2021), ThatOwlWoman (05-09-2021)
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Althea (05-09-2021), Djinn (05-10-2021), Guno צְבִי (05-09-2021)
To Althea: Get your facts straight before you spout Communist talking points.
The Korean and the Vietnam wars were not military defeats:
America used a small percentage of its military might and WEAPONRY in Iraq and Afghanistan. Should it ever come to an all-out war this country fights to win instead of fighting PEACE WITHOUT VICTORY wars like Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq type wars, it would not take long to defeat an enemy country, or countries, so long as the U.S. military is fighting for their country not fighting for the U.N.’s global agenda.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...75#post4363175
Korea was the first PEACE WITHOUT VICTORY war. It ended in a truce. American troops are still there:
. . . the U.N.’s Korean War is technically the longest war because it never ended thanks to President Wilson’s PEACE WITHOUT VICTORY war policy.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...75#post4363175
Do you think the U.S. Military was sent packing in Iraq?
A United Nations INTERNATIONAL COALITION in the Gulf War stopped Bush the Elder from going all the way to Bagdad. Had Bush toppled Saddam Hussein in 1990 there would have been no need to invade Iraq after 9-11-2001.
Parenthetically, media mouths applauded Bush the Elder’s Desert Storm because the U.N. was in charge from start to finish. Desert Storm —— like Korea —— was a Peace Without Victory war. Total Victory was secondary. Total defeat in the Vietnam War was primary because the United Nations opposed victory.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...10#post3148410
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Incidentally, the Korean and Vietnam Wars were fought for the same reason with one major difference separating the two. The United Nations supported the Korean War while it opposed the Vietnam War. Hence, anti-Vietnam War demonstrators brought retreat and political defeat to their own country, while demonstrating against the Korean War would have amounted to demonstrating against the United Nations, the one thing Communists will never do.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...28#post3100228
The United Nations did not sanction the Vietnam War that ended in a political defeat:
John Kerry was not famous when he first betrayed the country. Kerry was a U.S. Senator in 1995 when General Bui Tin was interviewed:
A Primer on Why We Lost Vietnam : A Vietnamese general confirms the anti-war movement's role in the U.S. defeat.
August 06, 1995
DAVID HOROWITZ
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-08-...i-war-movement
You can bet that the crowd in Hanoi were shaking their heads in bewilderment when Kerry first went to Congress. Kerry did give the old Commies a good laugh when they saw the traitor they met in Paris in 1971 go on to run for president and later become secretary of state. In short: Bui Tin had every reason to save Kerry from disgrace by not thanking him publicly along with Jane Fonda, Ramsey Clark et al.
Kerry not becoming president in 2004 was the one and only time he disappointed North Vietnam.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...87#post2917187
Afghanistan is also a United Nations war. Then-Senator Biden called for that war —— while President
Biden's plan to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan splits Congress -- but not just on party lines
By Jeremy Herb
Updated 6:44 PM ET, Tue April 13, 2021
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/13/polit...ons/index.html
Basically, U.N.-lovers in both parties do not want to see the United Nations get the blame for starting the Afghanistan War. Naturally, withdrawal will give American Communists another opportunity to claim another victory over the U.S. Military.
Parenthetically, the United Nations spent decades trying to tell the U.S. Military where it fights, and what it fights for; so any money Democrats give to the U.S. Military will end up in United Nations hands to pay for U.N. sanctioned wars as well as serve the U.N. as so-called ‘Peacekeepers’.
To Althea: Only God knows how many billions China’s & Russia’s military-industrial-complexes spend on obsolete weapons.
This one gave me a laugh:
Putin Announces Silent Submarine - Image Results
https://search.aol.com/aol/image;_yl...bmarine&v_t=na
Finally, John Kerry gave Iran billions to develop nuclear bombs. Ask John Kerry if he considered nuclear weapons obsolete.
To ThatOwlWoman: It must be true because the U.S. Military never loses even when they are betrayed politically from within.
The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer
ThatOwlWoman (05-09-2021)
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Althea (05-09-2021)
JPP Libs must get their talking points from:
I have not read any of John Mueller’s books. I did read the book review.
Assuming the review is accurate, Mueller’s latest effort does not lay the blame on Woodrow Wilson’s PEACE WITHOUT VICTORY, nor does Mueller accuse the United Nations —— both are the reasons for this country’s disastrous war policy.
This is the only thing I could find worth noting:
To make America a prosperous and successful country again, it must destroy its parasitic class of security hysterics and war hawks who set policy in Washington.
Revolver Book Review: “The Stupidity of War” — To Save America We Must Abolish “Defense-Diplomacy” Complex
May 11, 2021 (6h ago)
https://www.revolver.news/2021/05/bo...pidity-of-war/
The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer
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