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Thread: CDC guidelines issued march 24 say basically "Call every death covid".

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    Well, that settles it, COVID-19 is a major fraud, conspiracy now to effect the vote in November, defeat fat Donny, we all might as well just return to normal, open up the beaches, gun stores, Walmarts, and all the other right wing necessities to life, it is all just a big hoax

    Where would any good conservative be without their existential threat needed to define their reality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    Well, that settles it, COVID-19 is a major fraud, conspiracy now to effect the vote in November, defeat fat Donny, we all might as well just return to normal, open up the beaches, gun stores, Walmarts, and all the other right wing necessities to life, it is all just a big hoax.
    Nobody said that, did they, Anchovies?


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    The disease is real. The coverage is a hoax. And for most, the true cause of death is misrepresented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    Covid 19 should be listed as cause of death even where it is just "assumed to have... contributed to death." So, a patient in late-stage terminal cancer who has some Covid 19 symptoms, Covid 19 should be listed as the cause of death, even if there hasn't been a Covid 19 test and the patient died of cancer. Cancer "can" be listed, too.

    Most people who are infected with Covid 19 don't even have symptoms, let alone die from it.
    If they don’t have symptoms, then it didn’t contribute to their death, you fucking moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Yup - this is yet another media scam. The american press are deliberately trying to destroy the american economy and thereby america. Why would they do that? Because all liberals are white-hating racists and as long as america is mostly white, they will hate america and try to destroy it.


    Forum clown. Forum idiot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Nobody said that, did they, Anchovies?

    About half the right wing troll threads either insinuate it or do say it, loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post


    Forum clown. Forum idiot.

    Thickest race goggle here too. Up there with Volscock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    The death rate has to be taken with a major grain of salt. They are not just counting deaths attributable to COVID19 alone. But counting people who died WITH it not just OF it. That is a major distinction and very flawed.
    The question is, you major dumbfuck, would they have died in the same timeframe had they not contracted COVID. The answer is most likely NO in the majority of cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcslobber View Post
    About half the right wing troll threads either insinuate it or do say it, loser.

    Can you cite an example of Anchovy's claim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    The disease is real. The coverage is a hoax. And for most, the true cause of death is misrepresented.
    Seems like that's what the new CDC guidelines allow, doesn't it, Ms. Stretch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    The CDC is padding the numbers to prolong the panic so the DEMOCRATS can persuade all 50 governors to mandate mail & electronic voting, Ms. Stretch.

    #EMPTYHOSPITALS

    Never forget whose sister runs the CDC's Center for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.


    Just because you’re paranoid does not mean we’re NOT out to fuck you over.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    The disease is real. The coverage is a hoax. And for most, the true cause of death is misrepresented.
    Bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEMOCRAT domer76 View Post
    The question is, you major dumbfuck, would they have died in the same timeframe had they not contracted COVID. The answer is most likely NO in the majority of cases.
    "Likely".

    You think the CDC guideline requires proof that a decedent actually has COVID-19, DEMOCRAT?

    COVID-19 Alert No. 2

    March 24, 2020

    New ICD code introduced for COVID-19 deaths

    This email is to alert you that a newly-introduced ICD code has been implemented to accurately capture mortality data for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) on death certificates. Please read carefully and forward this email to the state statistical staff in your office who are involved in the preparation of mortality data, as well as others who may receive questions when the data are released.

    What is the new code?

    The new ICD code for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) is U07.1, and below is how it will appear in formal tabular list format. U07.1 COVID-19 Excludes: Coronavirus infection, unspecified site (B34.2) Severe acute respiratory syndrome [SARS], unspecified (U04.9) The WHO has provided a second code, U07.2, for clinical or epidemiological diagnosis of COVID-19 where a laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or not available. Because laboratory test results are not typically reported on death certificates in the U.S., NCHS is not planning to implement U07.2 for mortality statistics.

    When will it be implemented?

    Immediately.

    Will COVID-19 be the underlying cause?

    The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.

    What happens if certifiers report terms other than the suggested terms?

    If a death certificate reports coronavirus without identifying a specific strain or explicitly specifying that it is not COVID-19, NCHS will ask the states to follow up to verify whether or not the coronavirus was COVID-19. As long as the phrase used indicates the 2019 coronavirus strain, NCHS expects to assign the new code. However, it is preferable and more straightforward for certifiers to use the standard terminology (COVID-19).

    What happens if the terms reported on the death certificate indicate uncertainty?

    If the death certificate reports terms such as “probable COVID-19” or “likely COVID-19,” these terms would be assigned the new ICD code. It Is not likely that NCHS will follow up on these cases.

    If “pending COVID-19 testing” is reported on the death certificate, this would be considered a pending record. In this scenario, NCHS would expect to receive an updated record, since the code will likely result in R99. In this case, NCHS will ask the states to follow up to verify if test results confirmed that the decedent had COVID-19.

    Do I need to make any changes at the jurisdictional level to accommodate the new ICD code?

    Not necessarily, but you will want to confirm that your systems and programs do not behave as if U07.1 is an unknown code.

    Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?

    COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc. If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II. (See attached Guidance for Certifying COVID-19 Deaths)


    Steven Schwartz, PhD Director – Division of Vital Statistics National Center for Health Statistics 3311 Toledo Rd | Hyattsville, MD 20782


    https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2020-03-18-new-covid-19-icd-10-cm-code-coming-earlier

    Loser.


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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    If they don’t have symptoms, then it didn’t contribute to their death, you fucking moron.
    I always wonder why fcktards like you, Dumber, domer, seem to exist just to adverse what hateful morons you are. I'm sure your mom regrets every day that she didn't have you ripped apart in her womb. I guess they don't allow farm animals into the abortuaries.
    Ape lives matter. Stop putting them in zoos. Boycott businesses that don't hire apes.

    Then answered all the Jews, and said, Jesus' blood be on us, and on our children. So be it.
    Jews want to turn America into an atheistic, amoral, socialist farmyard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEMOCRAT domer76 View Post
    Bullshit.
    Prove it, DEMOCRAT. Of course I'll understand if you can't, naturally.

    Loser.


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