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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    what? are we not supposed to play realpolitik??
    The consequence is a super menace: Russian fine weaponry/engineering backed by Chinese money to advance their hegemony -while Russian economy is subsidized by China

    China has used soft power while we pursued interventionism
    ?? You just blow a bowl??

    Not going to go over it again-regarding the russian relationship w/ Ukraine/Crimea..

    Soft power is cheap power... They built 24 mega cities the size of hong kong w/ the most modern trains & airports etc etc etc, look/compare @ JFK & Amtrack

    Our infrastructure is crumbling but we got trillions to waste in central asia & when we are finally gone someday it will look worse than when we arrived twenty fuckin years ago.......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    ?? You just blow a bowl??

    Not going to go over it again-regarding the russian relationship w/ Ukraine/Crimea..

    Soft power is cheap power... They built 24 mega cities the size of hong kong w/ the most modern trains & airports etc etc etc, look/compare @ JFK & Amtrack

    Our infrastructure is crumbling but we got trillions to waste in central asia & when we are finally gone someday it will look worse than when we arrived twenty fuckin years ago.......
    you have been snarky of late..realpolitik is projected hard power. soft power works where hard power is too expensive or not appropriate. Interventionism is a guaranteed FUBAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    you have been snarky of late..realpolitik is projected hard power. soft power works where hard power is too expensive or not appropriate. Interventionism is a guaranteed FUBAR
    It happens, as you know, well prob not when you are doing it. lol

    Anyway, this is like we are having to conversations in different languages...

    So we are clear-I do not support the actions taken the US & EU against russia related to the Crimea..

    Don't agree or support the lies starting w/ East Germany eastward..

    My reference to softpower was a reference to China, not russia.......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    It happens, as you know, well prob not when you are doing it. lol

    Anyway, this is like we are having to conversations in different languages...

    So we are clear-I do not support the actions taken the US & EU against russia related to the Crimea..

    Don't agree or support the lies starting w/ East Germany eastward..

    My reference to softpower was a reference to China, not russia.......
    OK good enough.. glad to hear it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    My two cents: the Cold War is over, and I do not think our interests are served by refighting the cold war against Cuba or China. As a liberal democracy, we ideally should be advocates for human rights and international law.

    As for the USSR, I feel like Americans give themselves way too much credit for the demise of the Soviets. It was long standing internal structural weaknesses, latent nationalism, and the efforts of Russians Balts, Ukranisns, central Asians themselves who transformed their nations. Bedtime for Bonzo had almost nothing to do with it
    We are not a liberal democracy, Snowflake, we are a Constitutional Republic and the cold war with the USSR was won by President Reagan.

    SDI — the Strategic Defense Initiative. It put the Soviet military in a state of fear and shock. A decade later, a top Soviet strategist revealed what he had told the Politburo at the time: “Not only could we not defeat SDI, SDI defeated all our possible countermeasures.”
    Last edited by Earl; 05-07-2020 at 04:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    If so, how?

    Are you willing to accept the outcome, be that what it may??
    Not while globalists who take their marching orders from the CCP hold disproportionate control in both US parties, cheer Emperor Xi's plan for global dominance at Davos, and control the entirety of the MSM, entertainment industry, and the tech industry. Not to mention CCP infiltration of the University System through so called "Confucius Institutes".

    As an example of what we're up against Obama's former ambassador to China just went on CNN and likened criticism of China to the rise of Hitler in the 30s:

    Baucus: “The administration’s rhetoric is so strong against China, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s over the top. Very sad, we’re entering a kind of era which is similar to Joe McCarthy, uh, back when he was red-baiting the State Department and attacking communism. And a little bit like Hitler! In the Thirties, um that a lot of people knew what was going on was wrong. They knew it was wrong. But they didn’t stand up and say anything about it. They felt intimidated. And now in the United States if anybody says anything reasonable about China he or she feels intimidated. Afraid his head’s gonna be chopped off. And back in the Thirties in Germany there, it was very similar. People who were responsible uh, in the U.S. and especially responsible in Germany couldn’t speak up. And I worry that some of that is happening now. And it’s very dangerous. And I think it’s happening in part because the Republican administration of Donald Trump uh, realizes that the economy is not doing well probably because of the coronavirus. And, uh, they’ve therefore have to pivot. They have to blame somebody. And they’re blaming China. And it’s gonna be very difficult to get back on track after the election–whoever’s elected.”

    Gorani: “Okay, uh, uh, be-before I go, I mean the comparison you’re making here between the, the current U.S. uh, atmosphere in Washington and uh, Germany in the Thirties, I mean that, that’a a very, that’s a very sss, you know, kind of, is it, is it, are you being provocative? Or do you really believe that there are parallels?”

    Baucus: “I think we’re moving in that direction. Um, and I, it’s, I’m not saying we’re there yet. But there are a lot of very responsible people in America who know that this China bashing is irresponsible and we’re gonna pay a price the more it continues. That’s what I’m saying. But they’re afraid to speak up because they’re afraid that they’ll be criticized.”



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    The only way for the industrial democracies to prevent Chinese global hegemony from becoming a reality and to preserve the Westphalian system is for nationalists like Trump, Abe, and Bolsanaro to keep winning and for others to join their ranks on the global stage.
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    Excellent idea, they must not be allowed to profit off this.

    Bill introduced in US Congress to stop predatory acquisitions by China during Covid-19 pandemic


    WASHINGTON: An influential American Congressman on Wednesday introduced a legislation in the House of Representatives that would prevent predatory investments of American companies by the Chinese government. Introduced by Congressman Jim Banks, member of the House Armed Services Committee, the Restricting Predatory Acquisition During COVID-19 Act would expand the scope of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) to review purchases by companies with ties to the Chinese Communist Party during the COVID-19 pandemic. "Our job is to ensure the Chinese Communist Party does not profit off a pandemic of their own making. President Trump won an election vowing to stop China from taking advantage of Americans. I am glad to be working with him now to stop Chinese predation," Banks said in a statement. The bill proposes to increase the scope of cases the CFIUS reviews and sends to the president prior to a financial transaction. It will prevent companies with ties to the People's Republic of China from owning more than 51 per cent of shares in the critical infrastructure, as defined by the Defense Production Act of 1950, organisations engaged in the production and dissemination of news media, or entities otherwise determined to be critical to national security, critical infrastructure, or culturally significant by the president. Congressman Sharice Davids on Wednesday introduced a legislation to rapidly increase the supply of equipment like face masks, hospital gowns, ventilators and testing materials needed to fight the coronavirus and keep the frontline workers safe. The bill would also promote manufacturing these goods in the United States. "We have seen first hand that relying on China to produce the vast majority of medical equipment we use in the US is a big problem," Davids said. "It has led to shortages, price gouging and a surge...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    We are not a liberal democracy, Snowflake, we are a Constitutional Republic and the cold war with the USSR was won by President Reagan.
    That's a form of liberal democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    My two cents: the Cold War is over, and I do not think our interests are served by refighting the cold war against Cuba or China. As a liberal democracy, we ideally should be advocates for human rights and international law.

    As for the USSR, I feel like Americans give themselves way too much credit for the demise of the Soviets. It was long standing internal structural weaknesses, latent nationalism, and the efforts of Russians Balts, Ukranisns, central Asians themselves who transformed their nations. Bedtime for Bonzo had almost nothing to do with it
    Revisionist nonsense, yes the USSR had structural weaknesses that weakness was called socialism and Reagan saw that structural weakness and pushed on it by forcing them to spend money on their military they couldn't afford causing the whole system to collapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeSpeech View Post
    That's a form of liberal democracy.
    CIA World Factbook:

    USA-type of government-onstitutional federal republic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    If so, how?

    Are you willing to accept the outcome, be that what it may??
    this will be different......now we are fighting on our own streets against lib'rul voters......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    I guess you haven't noticed that socialism under this administration is alive and well. Big government has gotten bigger, fat cats have gotten fatter, and trillions of dollars of tax money handed out in a few short weeks. All without a single complaint from you
    ignorant lib'ruls such as youself are the forerunners of the communism that currently threatens us.......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Its time, way past time, for you to begin your overthrow of the government, or have you chickened out already?
    we overthrew your government in 2016 and wil do it again in November.....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    I notice that you won't deny the charges, so you go little girl. Just sit at you keyboard and play "tuff" guy.
    we deny your charges by using a damp cloth to wipe the drool off your chin........
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    we overthrew your government in 2016 and wil do it again in November.....
    and the establishment screamed like stuck pigs

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