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    Quote Originally Posted by WitoldPilecki View Post
    Libertarianism is extreme deregulation & limited government.
    Well I accept that you finally addressed what I asked but in the most half assed way.

    government regulation only works if you have a perfect government which No Such thing exists because again Utopia doesn't exist.

    At least in a libertarian system you won't have nothing but losers.

    Capitalism doesn't make losers and losers make losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WitoldPilecki View Post
    Libertarianism is extreme deregulation & limited government.
    Well I accept that you finally addressed what I asked but in the most half assed way.

    government regulation only works if you have a perfect government which No Such thing exists because again Utopia doesn't exist.

    At least in a libertarian system you won't have nothing but losers.

    Capitalism doesn't make losers and losers make losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I never said a few machinist jobs weren't outsourced. You need to work on your reading comprehension.

    You are in over your head, I suggest you find an easier thread to participate in. Look up Ox's (Crocodile), like you, he struggles with developing coherent thoughts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arks&sparka View Post
    Well I accept that you finally addressed what I asked but in the most half assed way.

    government regulation only works if you have a perfect government which No Such thing exists because again Utopia doesn't exist.

    At least in a libertarian system you won't have nothing but losers.

    Capitalism doesn't make losers and losers make losers.
    LMFAO.
    Uh Social Democracy & Light Socialism are far more humane than Libertarians.

    Libertarian flaws are numerous just like Communists.

    Some losers are born with low IQs & can try & can't get ahead

    Others are normal actually do try but can't make upward mobility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WitoldPilecki View Post
    LMFAO.
    Uh Social Democracy & Light Socialism are far more humane than Libertarians.

    Libertarian flaws are numerous just like Communists.

    Some losers are born with low IQs & can try & can't get ahead

    Others are normal actually do try but can't make upward mobility.
    Socialism makes everybody losers.

    Further I never said libertarianism was flawless so great job arguing against your shadows.

    And it's socialism everyone's a loser because nobody can get ahead.

    It should be highly suspect when they're extremely wealthy are championing socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I never said a few machinist jobs weren't outsourced. You need to work on your reading comprehension.

    You are in over your head, I suggest you find an easier thread to participate in. Look up Ox's (Crocodile), like you, he struggles with developing coherent thoughts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arks&sparka View Post
    Socialism makes everybody losers.

    Further I never said libertarianism was flawless so great job arguing against your shadows.

    And it's socialism everyone's a loser because nobody can get ahead.

    It should be highly suspect when they're extremely wealthy are championing socialism.
    Social Democracy is like Norway, Denmark & Sweden.

    Countries with less poverty & more happiness.

    While they might not have super billionaires like Bezos, Buffet or Gates.

    These A holes will never need or spend all that money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arks&sparka View Post
    Socialism makes everybody losers.

    Further I never said libertarianism was flawless so great job arguing against your shadows.

    And it's socialism everyone's a loser because nobody can get ahead.

    It should be highly suspect when they're extremely wealthy are championing socialism.
    An excellent and logical argument, one of which I agree. Thank you, sir, for presenting it.

    FWIW, I'm as guilty of being a flaming asshole as those who blame all Boomers for our nations problems. As "Arks&sparka" has well displayed, Millennials are not stupid, they're as smart as any other generation, some wiser than others, some not so much.

    The fact remains, we're all human and our species has progressed best when all of us progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I never said a few machinist jobs weren't outsourced. You need to work on your reading comprehension.

    You are in over your head, I suggest you find an easier thread to participate in. Look up Ox's (Crocodile), like you, he struggles with developing coherent thoughts.
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    Lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    An excellent and logical argument, one of which I agree. Thank you, sir, for presenting it.
    There's a big difference between Social Democracy & Light Socialism.
    Vs
    Communism & Nazism.

    Subtle logic, proportions, balances don't quite sit well with Individualists.

    Truly Individualists are beasts of burden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    damn you are willfully stupid, argumentum without reason and generally uninformed due to your lack of research.
    IOW's a waste of time
    #triggered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arks&sparka View Post
    This is such a communist talking point. Redistribution of wealth is a communist endeavor. The gap between the rich and the poor is not why the poor people are poor.
    This is the Hitler Ate Sugar fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WitoldPilecki View Post
    Social Democracy is like Norway, Denmark & Sweden.

    Countries with less poverty & more happiness.

    While they might not have super billionaires like Bezos, Buffet or Gates.

    These A holes will never need or spend all that money.
    Norway Denmark and Sweden are not socialists they are capitalists. Venezuela is a Democratic socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I never said a few machinist jobs weren't outsourced. You need to work on your reading comprehension.

    You are in over your head, I suggest you find an easier thread to participate in. Look up Ox's (Crocodile), like you, he struggles with developing coherent thoughts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arks&sparka View Post
    Norway Denmark and Sweden are not socialists they are capitalists. Venezuela is a Democratic socialism.
    I said Social Democracy.
    A form of humane Capitalism with big safety nets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I never said a few machinist jobs weren't outsourced. You need to work on your reading comprehension.

    You are in over your head, I suggest you find an easier thread to participate in. Look up Ox's (Crocodile), like you, he struggles with developing coherent thoughts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arks&sparka View Post
    Norway Denmark and Sweden are not socialists they are capitalists. Venezuela is a Democratic socialism.
    Why are Capitalist societies falling apart?

    Most strong Capitalist societies are filled with third World riff raffs.

    Especially the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    An excellent and logical argument, one of which I agree. Thank you, sir, for presenting it.

    FWIW, I'm as guilty of being a flaming asshole as those who blame all Boomers for our nations problems. As "Arks&sparka" has well displayed, Millennials are not stupid, they're as smart as any other generation, some wiser than others, some not so much.

    The fact remains, we're all human and our species has progressed best when all of us progress.
    It's so common for people to blame the boomers millennials but I don't blame them. Are you understand why the boomers did what they did they were giving us something. Something they were denied. the instilled in us the idea that you can be anything you want. That's a good thing the execution of it wasn't perfect but things rarely are.

    They don't with stuff that they didn't want us to deal with and I'm glad every day that I didn't have to.

    The only things the boomers do that aggravates me is the tell me how easy they had it and that it's just as easy now when it's not. a sixteen-year-old these days can't strike out on their own and get a part-time job and afford an apartment and be able to go to school like the boomers did. When they bought their house back in the 80s because less than cars do now.

    When you have to pay $1,000 in a month for an efficiency apartment you're going to be sharing it with someone else. Even if you work double shifts and if you're doing that you can't go to school to gain some of the skills you need for better work.

    So really the only thing that bugs me is when they're hard on millennials for staying at home in their 20s. This is the time when they would have been having children I'm sure people would do that if they could but if you can't afford to take care of yourself you shouldn't be bringing children into the world.

    Other than that I have no real complaint about the boomers they did their best based on what they knew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I never said a few machinist jobs weren't outsourced. You need to work on your reading comprehension.

    You are in over your head, I suggest you find an easier thread to participate in. Look up Ox's (Crocodile), like you, he struggles with developing coherent thoughts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arks&sparka View Post
    It's so common for people to blame the boomers millennials but I don't blame them. Are you understand why the boomers did what they did they were giving us something. Something they were denied. the instilled in us the idea that you can be anything you want. That's a good thing the execution of it wasn't perfect but things rarely are.

    They don't with stuff that they didn't want us to deal with and I'm glad every day that I didn't have to.

    The only things the boomers do that aggravates me is the tell me how easy they had it and that it's just as easy now when it's not. a sixteen-year-old these days can't strike out on their own and get a part-time job and afford an apartment and be able to go to school like the boomers did. When they bought their house back in the 80s because less than cars do now.

    When you have to pay $1,000 in a month for an efficiency apartment you're going to be sharing it with someone else. Even if you work double shifts and if you're doing that you can't go to school to gain some of the skills you need for better work.

    So really the only thing that bugs me is when they're hard on millennials for staying at home in their 20s. This is the time when they would have been having children I'm sure people would do that if they could but if you can't afford to take care of yourself you shouldn't be bringing children into the world.

    Other than that I have no real complaint about the boomers they did their best based on what they knew.
    Lmfao.

    A.) No you really can't be anything you want.
    Depending on the goal.
    A degree of inherent giftedness & sometimes even luck are involved.

    B.)
    Boomers poisoned the wages with Feminist workers, illegals, H2B visas & robots.

    They did everything to maximize imnediate greed at future generations expenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    This is the Hitler Ate Sugar fallacy.
    No it's not.

    Communism is how wealth is redistributed when were talking about a government action. When you can negotiate what your labor is worth in between you and whoever is paying you you can decide on what the pay is that's when people prosper.

    When the government devalues your labor to the point you get paid the same as everyone else that is when everyone becomes a loser or a malcontent. That's when we have genocide.

    I don't know why you net with all think you're so brilliant making the same talking points people who have been making for a hundred years. We've seen what happens it is predictable.

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