Greedy Corporation Tricks: The Immorality In Taking Advantage Profiting Off Stupidity

[Guno צְבִי]

Socialism fails because it is built on a false ideology. The notion that Government is anything BUT a necessary evil can only be believed by the naive, the uneducated and the historically ignorant.

I cannot fathom why ANYONE would believe that being a dependent ward of the State is a good thing. You are illustrative of the failure of left leaning Western educational establishment.

yes fritzy very bad!
Germany has a universal health care

In Germany, labor wages, hours, and other aspects of working conditions are decided by unions, work councils.

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yes fritzy very bad!
Germany has a universal health care

Germany's system is just as much of a failure as France's, England's, Canada's and any other nations who stupidly believe that a lack of services, specialists and long wait times are great things.

You need to get our of your mom's basement more snowflake.

In Germany, labor wages, hours, and other aspects of working conditions are decided by unions, work councils.

Germany's economy compared to ours is in dire trouble snowflake. It is a nation lacking in natural resources and dependent on foreign oil. It is a nation wallowing in Socialist debt and which taxes its citizens at confiscatory rates.

I do wish you had even the slightest clue of what you are emoting about.

[evince]

The only reason socialism would fail would be from people who don't believe it can work for certain things and who actively undermine it and try to make it fail.

socialism would suffer the same effects of evil people getting power and trashing the system for personal gain


socialism will NEVER work as a system


give up on it as a driving force of a nation



well fettered capitalism

its what our founders chose for GOOD REASONS


it has self correcting elements to it


It keeps the money CHANGING HANDS


it operates on the POWER OF A BETTER IDEA ( IF PROPERLY FETTERED)

the fettering can be adjusted in response to current conditions


socialism runs into a system where the motivations can be easily manipulated by the wrong person ion the wrong place


Democratic Republic henged on capitalism that the PEOPLE can control by REGULATIONS AND TAXES


it works great when you don't have a party ( the Retrumpagain party) aimed at destroying the Union


what we need to rid ourselves of is a corporation that pumps put LIES and calls its self news and a party that cheats to the high heavens to STEAL the Power from the voters

[evince]

Germany's system is just as much of a failure as France's, England's, Canada's and any other nations who stupidly believe that a lack of services, specialists and long wait times are great things.

You need to get our of your mom's basement more snowflake.



Germany's economy compared to ours is in dire trouble snowflake. It is a nation lacking in natural resources and dependent on foreign oil. It is a nation wallowing in Socialist debt and which taxes its citizens at confiscatory rates.

I do wish you had even the slightest clue of what you are emoting about.

Germany is a capitalist nation you fucking idiot

[PoliTalker]

Hello guno,

yes fritzy very bad!
Germany has a universal health care

In Germany, labor wages, hours, and other aspects of working conditions are decided by unions, work councils.

Yup.

Called it in post 6:

"This is the kind of thread which is usually scrolled off into oblivion in short order. Nobody wants to admit the downsides to capitalism or that we may have better options for part of our economy. If anybody comments, it will be the old meme that we have to choose between capitalism or socialism."

Capitalism and socialism work together to give us a better economy that neither could give us alone.

That has already been happening.

If Trump is supposed to be making America great again, when exactly did he think America was great in the past?

In the 1920's, which lead up to the Great Depression?

The 30's with soup lines and bums with no work?

How about the 40s? The world at war.

How about the 1950's when the USA was king of the world after WWII?

Bingo. That's when America was great.

Lotsa socialism then. We taxed the rich at 90%. We built hospitals, airports and interstate highways with the money. Those things made America great. Work that paid so much one earner could support a family, buy a house, have savings, take vacations, have health care and retirement. And all the time paying SOCIAL Security. Things were so great we had a baby boom. Even WITH the socialism. Minimum wage, forced overtime pay. 40 hour work week. And on and on. Socialism and capitalism working hand in hand. We used our government to TELL TV Networks they HAD to put on the news, even though it was not profitable then. They didn't do it for the money. They did it because the government FORCED them to.

I'll tell ya what screwed up the news.

As soon as it began to turn profits.

Up until then it was just the information.

This happened. That happened. Done. Back to the Jack Par show.

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Germany is a capitalist nation you fucking idiot

Germany is a Socialistic nation you dimwitted crack whore.

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socialism will NEVER work as a system

Wow; I can no longer say you can't get anything right. You must have been sober when you typed this.

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Hello guno,



Yup.

Called it in post 6:

"This is the kind of thread which is usually scrolled off into oblivion in short order. Nobody wants to admit the downsides to capitalism or that we may have better options for part of our economy. If anybody comments, it will be the old meme that we have to choose between capitalism or socialism."

Capitalism and socialism work together to give us a better economy that neither could give us alone.

That has already been happening.

If Trump is supposed to be making America great again, when exactly did he think America was great in the past?

In the 1920's, which lead up to the Great Depression?

The 30's with soup lines and bums with no work?

How about the 40s? The world at war.

How about the 1950's when the USA was king of the world after WWII?

Bingo. That's when America was great.

Lotsa socialism then. We taxed the rich at 90%. We built hospitals, airports and interstate highways with the money. Those things made America great. Work that paid so much one earner could support a family, buy a house, have savings, take vacations, have health care and retirement. And all the time paying SOCIAL Security. Things were so great we had a baby boom. Even WITH the socialism. Minimum wage, forced overtime pay. 40 hour work week. And on and on. Socialism and capitalism working hand in hand. We used our government to TELL TV Networks they HAD to put on the news, even though it was not profitable then. They didn't do it for the money. They did it because the government FORCED them to.

I'll tell ya what screwed up the news.

As soon as it began to turn profits.

Up until then it was just the information.

This happened. That happened. Done. Back to the Jack Par show.

You are not a student of history I see. Your posts are filled with Marxist dogma.

[evince]

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Germany practices capitalism



see how stupid these idiots are to claim a program in a capitalist nation that is socialistic will destroy their capitalism



they cant give us a SINGLE example of the bullshit they hinge their whole world view on


but fuck are racists brain damaged shit statues

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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha
Germany practices capitalism
see how stupid these idiots are to claim a program in a capitalist nation that is socialistic will destroy their capitalism
they cant give us a SINGLE example of the bullshit they hinge their whole world view on
but fuck are racists brain damaged shit statues

This from the low IQ loony tune who thinks Russia stole the election from Hillary. You can't make this loony shit up.

[evince]

Germany is a Socialistic nation you dimwitted crack whore.

They are a Federal Republic asshole



I thought you liked REPUBLICS?

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They are a Federal Republic asshole
I thought you liked REPUBLICS?

You can call it whatever you want. Germany is a Socialist Republic. Their citizens are heavily taxed and their country has no way of sustaining their welfare state. They import labor to do the dirty work because German youth have discovered they don't need to work.

I was born there you brain dead lunatic.

[Jack]

I support a National Health Plan. The other industrialized nations do as well. National Health Care may be the 'Big' issue in the next Election.

Yeah, and we rejected English rule and their establishment.

That last point, hard to figure.

You would think they would figure out what Henry Ford did a long time ago. Pay the workers well and they turn into your customers. A wealthy populace leads to a great economy and lots of profits for the owners of big business.

I think the problem is the 'wealthy populace' idea is part of win/win philosophy. Most capitalists are really win/lose kinda people. They think in order for one person to do well in a deal that the other has to lose. They think there can only be one winner in every deal. The way Trump thinks.

They don't believe in win/win philosophy.

In college I had a buddy who was really good at chess. Whupped my butt every time. I kept trying but I was no match. Then he began to give me pointers. I would start to make a move and he would let me know why I didn't want to do that. If I did that, the game would be over real quick, he'd say. Told me about the center four squares. You can instantly be better than any opponent who doesn't know about the center four squares. The first thing you want to do is try to control the center four squares. If you have control of the center four squares, you have a huge advantage from there on out. You'll probably win over somebody who doesn't know that. He told me this, fully knowing it would make me a better chess player. After that I was able to beat him sometimes.

I asked him why he did that. He explained about win/win philosophy. If you help your opponent, and they get better, it forces you to get better. It's a win/win deal. If he never helped me, he would have always been able to win, but that would have been boring for him, and he would not be challenged, nor do any improvement himself. So he helped me and it helped him.

I got a lot more than a chess lesson out of that. I realized the implications in life. The win/win philosophy is always better in society. We don't want to go around screwing each other. That's boring and it's not going to challenge us or promote improvement. We would sort of plateau out as a society. We don't make the world better by tearing down others. We don't make the country great by putting down others. We make it great by recognizing unique talents and helping others to achieve their potential. If that dips into our profits a bit, no problem. It forces us to get even more creative ourselves and motivates us to find a more efficient way of doing things. Win/win works in the business world just as much as it does in chess or anything else.

Greedy Corporations with institutionalized rip-offs take advantage of unsuspecting customers. Extracting wealth for the sake of extracting wealth is not good for society. It is better to find a unique way of building products or selling them that offers better value. That is the win/win way to make lots of money and help society. Ripping people off is a detriment.

Some markets are not really markets at all. Like health care. That's not a market. That's institutionalized rip off. The capitalist model breaks down there. It hurts society. That's why we need socialized health care. For the good of society and all that comes from having a very healthy nation. A healthy nation is more productive! That's win/win.

[Celticguy]

Some markets are not really markets at all. Like health care. That's not a market. That's institutionalized rip off. The capitalist model breaks down there. It hurts society. That's why we need socialized health care. For the good of society and all that comes from having a very healthy nation. A healthy nation is more productive! That's win/win.

Do you know when healthcare ceased to be a market ?
Look up the price spiral and you will see it correlates to the advent of Medicare.
Government is the problem, not the solution.
You want the benefit of smart shopping without the effort. Convenience comes at a cost.

[Jack]

TD: "Using you and Politalker as the example, I would say that the population has not been educated, but rather, indoctrinated."
Jack: Do you support an educational system that is based on payment? Every quarter needs to be paid for in advance?

TD: "Having healthcare paid for by someone else will never make anyone healthy."
Jack: Like Public Schools, Public Health would be paid for by everybody.

Using you and Politalker as the example, I would say that the population has not been educated, but rather, indoctrinated.



Having healthcare paid for by someone else will never make anyone healthy. Health is a matter of proper diet and exercise. Are you going to force people to eat better, stop smoking and exercise?