PostmodernProphet (09-13-2021)
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Catholics are every bit as Christian as Evangelical Protestants.
Evangelicals are a small minority of world Christianity and do not get to speak for the faith as a whole.
The authors of the New Testament were not the apostles. They were anonymous, educated Greek-speakers writing four to six decades after Jesus was executed.
The NT was not written in English, a language which did not exist in the first century. Translating two thousand year old archaic Greek into modern vernacular English involves subjective interpretation of original meaning and intent.
We do not know exactly what was in the original New Testament. What we have are surviving hand written copies from the Middle Ages, a thousand years later than the original Gospels. We can assume these copies are fairly accurate representations of the original Greek Gospels, but there have almost certainly been changes and additions over the centuries
Jesus did not found Christianity, Paul did.
The Old Testament, Tanakh, is Jewish scripture. Torah is Jewish law. Paul's ministry made explicitly clear that gentiles are not necessarily required to conform to the Jewish law.
Church patristic fathers and Christian theologians of late antiquity generally thought it was preposterous and stupid to read Genesis and the rest of Torah literally. They considered correct biblical reading to utilize allegory and metaphor.
Revelations was a first century composition which referenced the Roman Empire, written for people of that era. It was not forecasting a future world government led by China or European Union.
I am pretty sure Jesus never said anything explicitly about abortion or gays.
Just my two cents.
PostmodernProphet (09-13-2021)
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If it's a religion as we know religions to be,
how may it be logically understood?
Magic men in the sky and logical understanding are not two manifestations which can coexist.
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Kris Kristofferson, 1969
ThatOwlWoman (09-03-2021)
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
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It has probably always been that way.
Educated priests, monks, and bishops who are educated at reputable seminaries and divinity schools are very sophisticated about the nature of biblical scholarship and interpretation.
But there are so many Joel Osteens out there who never received or sought a legitimate theological education, but are keen to posture as pastors speaking the spiritual truth.
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Cypress (09-03-2021)
I do not think all of the worlds two billion christians anthropomorphize God in that fashion.
I do not speak for the world's five billion christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists, but I think many people are drawn to religion because they feel pure logic and scientific experimentation only can partly explain the ultimate reality and meaning of existence, and they find meaning in life through ritual, community, and ethical traditions found in their respective faith communities.
Phantasmal (09-03-2021)
Homosexuality and abortion were never a thing during early Christianity.
Cypress (09-03-2021)
Religion doesn't deploy the practices required to actually learn anything, however.
But right now, I'm obsessive about one thing: how did MSNBC's Hallie Jackson get so chubby?
That's fine for people who look like me, and I take advantage of that,
but Hallie is a cutie.
During the 2016 election coverages, I got crushes on Hallie Jackson, Kasie Hunt, and Katy Tur, all at once.
The Gestapo brought that to my attention. She's probably sending food to Ms. Jackson, just to spite me.
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Kris Kristofferson, 1969
No, they don't. As far as gays, it's mostly old testament warnings about unhealthy things. Despite their whines about gays the scripture is about certain sexual activity (a.k.a. butt sex). Let's see the outrage of the straight versions of this stuff. Ain't going to happen.
I do not think educated church leaders have ever tried to explain legitimate biblical scholarship to the lay masses, because it is too nuanced and confusing, and the main goal of ritual and salvation I guess is the sacraments.
The obsession with Peter and Rome's supposed primacy is a main reason for the Great Schism of the 12th century. Orthodox Constantinople got fed up with that primacy of the Bishop of Rome story.
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