Stretch (11-16-2019), Truth Detector (11-18-2019)
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
Stretch (11-16-2019), Truth Detector (11-18-2019)
When you serve at the pleasure of the president he can fire you for any reason no matter whether it is good, bad, or no cause.
I don't know why Republicans keep telling us this--nobody has challenged Trump's right to fire somebody. I'm not sure if he believed the false charges against her or whether he was involved in creating them.
Truth Detector (11-18-2019)
Hello Darth,
Why would they? Their job is to serve the President. All he has to do is set policy. They don't question it. They enact it.
This has nothing to do with President Obama.
Setting up a rogue foreign affairs group that acted in opposition to US policy is not protecting and defending the Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic. Trump violated his oath of office.
They are not jumping around. They are making a list. Those other charges don't just go away because more are being added. If you choose not to see them that is your prerogative.
They have always had that right. I am OK with that. As you say. Come up with viable charges and it is justified. These are viable charges.
When a President has acted inappropriately it falls upon the House to oversee his actions. Waiting for the next election is not correct oversight.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Again, because he can does that mean he should? She was highly qualified and had great experience. She is respected and has done a great job with many awards. She did not want to participate in Trump's shenanigans. Trump does not permit that. So he found someone who was far less qualified to come in and allow his dirty work. He lowered the quality and ended the experience. He replaced her with a million dollar donor. Now that is qualifications.
Even with that disgusting stuff in mind, there was no reason for Trump to verbally abused her. He lied and said she was a bad diplomat and she was in real trouble.
This whole incident shows what an incompetent and disrespectful jerk Trump is. It is not a Voyanovich story. It is another bad Trump one.
You keep using the term ‘official US Policy’ like it was something in the constitution lol.
The official US policy is whatever the executive branch decrees it is. Unelected officials at the State Department either work to advance that policy or they get pushed out of the way. And again, this is hardly new or nefarious. Obama did it, Bush did it—in a word it’s a normal process.
If voters decide they don’t like the ‘official US policy’ the proper [legitimate] remedy is the next election. That’s the way it’s supposed to work in our constitutional republic.
What the House is engaged in is constructing imaginative crime theories based almost exclusively on hearsay. Just saw on Twitter where one individual said Trump’s conversation with Zelensky was ‘unusual and out of the norm’.
Well, sending crates of cash to the Iranians was ‘unusual and out of the norm’ lol. Not only that, that involved an *actual action* by a president as opposed to Trump’s conversation that was never acted upon. And I would appreciate it if you didn’t invoke the ‘this is not about Obama’ bit because the whole point is all presidents engage in ‘out of the norm’ things from time to time.
In trying to make ‘out of the norm’ actions of presidents an impeachable offense democrats are taking us down a very dark road.
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
anatta (11-17-2019), Truth Detector (11-18-2019)
You really are a hack... "she did not agree with [trump's] foreign policy. That's vague, how about some specifics? What did or didn't she do that she was brought to trump's attention? The Ukrainian president didn't have her fired, trump had her fired. Stop reading RW rags with all their lies.
Now riddle me this Batman: Kurt Volker and Gordon Sondland were the official channel to Ukraine negotiations, and Rick Perry also had input. These people are trump loyalists. So why did trump need a back channel composed of Ghouliani, Lev Parnas and Ivor Fruman to work behind the scenes? These three are the ones who worked to discredit Yovanovich and dig up dirt on the Bidens. If trump was really trying to "fight coruption" (ha ha), why weren't Volker, Sondland and Perry the ones doing it out in the open? Those of us not wearing trump blinders know the answers to this.
"Re: two recently indicted associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman... the indictment recounts an alleged scheme by Parnas and Fruman to get the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, removed from her post. The indictment also says the pair was pursuing this goal at the behest of a Ukrainian official."
If you were honest you'd admit that these people were worried about what Yovanovich knew, and what she'd do with that knowledge. Nobody but trump claims she was bad at her job and we all know what a lying liar he is.
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Flash (11-17-2019)
Truth Detector (11-18-2019)
Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.
Abortion
Pro-Choice
Women's rights
Women's Health
Truth Detector (11-18-2019)
Truth Detector (11-18-2019)
I agree with your post but whether he "should" remove her is not our decision to make. There are a lot of things I don't think presidents "should" do.
And, historically, ambassadors have been appointed because of their campaign contributions including those who did not even know where the country was located.
Truth Detector (11-18-2019)
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