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  • is fine and will win in 2022

    10 45.45%
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    3 13.64%
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Thread: Fall of the Republican Party

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Disagreed on the effectiveness of it honoring democracy and agreed it nor any other party will be perfect.

    Your party gave into unDemocratic principles in 2016 and many here still support a return of Hillary just like the fucking Trump nutjobs want their asshole to run.

    Agreed the system is sound. Like a marriage, I think it's lacking maintenance not structure.

    Also agreed on country over party.

    Many people confuse the two. To many their Country IS their political party, the other party is full of outsiders.
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    The day after the United Nations voted to recognize the People’s Republic of China, then–California Governor Ronald Reagan phoned President Richard Nixon at the White House and vented his frustration at the delegates who had sided against the United States. “Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did,” Reagan said. “Yeah,” Nixon interjected. Reagan forged ahead with his complaint: “To see those, those monkeys from those African countries—damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!” Nixon gave a huge laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...rticle/595102/



    Ronald Reagan’s Long-Hidden Racist Conversation With Richard Nixon
    In newly unearthed audio, the then–California governor disparaged African delegates to the United Nations.

    By Tim Naftali
    It’s cold hard undeniable fact Ronny was a racist

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerner_Commission

    This late sixties report spoke of the horrific racism black Americans faced


    And the Republican Party then switched to being the racist party


    Weird huh



    It’s like they read it and said


    Gee I like all this racism

    Let’s harness it for evil

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    We hate that you people are so stupid you would kill yourself and your kids to please a fat ugly orange con man
    Sybil is a paranoid schizo IMO. I doubt he has any kids.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...rticle/595102/

    Ronald Reagan’s Long-Hidden Racist Conversation With Richard Nixon
    In newly unearthed audio, the then–California governor disparaged African delegates to the United Nations.

    By Tim Naftali
    Now play the LBJ racist tape. LOL

    Yes, even the first Republican President was a fucking racist. Same goes for LBJ. OTOH, Harry S Truman seemed a lot more enlightened than the Democrats before him and after.**

    Are you claiming the Republicans hold a monopoly on racism in American, evince? I'd agree with a majority of the racism, maybe even 75%, being on the Republican side but I'd have to see the numbers first.

    Racism, bigotry, discrimination for genetic reasons and hatred are bad. Wrong. Neither party is virtuous when it comes to any of them. Sure, the Republicans are worst, but don't use that as an excuse to be blind to racism, misogyny and bigotry in the Democratic Party.



    **I was a military brat going to desegregated DOD schools throughout the 60s. The riots and protests on television didn't make sense to me since there were kids and parents of different races on my block and in my school. We played together just like any other kids. It was normal for us. What I saw on television wasn't normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    It’s a Russo bot hole
    Russians are smarter and saner. Jus' sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Your a nice guy dutch

    You got had

    Do you have the integrity to admit it and get right with the facts?
    Thanks. My wife has been a big influence.

    Why do you think I've been had, evince?

    I love facts and strive to maintain my integrity and honor. Part of the Bushido Code, doncha know.

    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Now play the LBJ racist tape.
    OK...done...and? LBJ didn't attempt to thwart history, did he? The CRA and VRA were both his bills.


    Are you claiming the Republicans hold a monopoly on racism in American, evince?
    "Republican"/"Democrat" are just the party labels...Conservatism holds the monopoly on racism in America.

    The Klan weren't liberals, neither were the Birchers, neither were the teabags, and neither are the MAGAts.

    Conservatism is rooted in racism, and it's always been rooted in racism...it hops between the parties, depending on whichever has decided to be the Conservative party at the time.

    Buckley even told you in as many words that Conservatives are race-based reactionaries!


    Sure, the Republicans are worst, but don't use that as an excuse to be blind to racism, misogyny and bigotry in the Democratic Party.
    Of course the Democratic Party has racist history to it, it was once filled with Southern, religious, Conservative whites.

    But invoking that past today is just as irrelevant as invoking the fact that the Dodgers used to play in Brooklyn, yet the raised the 2020 WS pennant in Los Angeles.
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Now play the LBJ racist tape. LOL

    Yes, even the first Republican President was a fucking racist. Same goes for LBJ. OTOH, Harry S Truman seemed a lot more enlightened than the Democrats before him and after.**

    Are you claiming the Republicans hold a monopoly on racism in American, evince? I'd agree with a majority of the racism, maybe even 75%, being on the Republican side but I'd have to see the numbers first.

    Racism, bigotry, discrimination for genetic reasons and hatred are bad. Wrong. Neither party is virtuous when it comes to any of them. Sure, the Republicans are worst, but don't use that as an excuse to be blind to racism, misogyny and bigotry in the Democratic Party.



    **I was a military brat going to desegregated DOD schools throughout the 60s. The riots and protests on television didn't make sense to me since there were kids and parents of different races on my block and in my school. We played together just like any other kids. It was normal for us. What I saw on television wasn't normal.
    I never much liked LBJ


    I don’t think he did the good the good things he did out of morality


    He did it because the party was going that way


    MY BELOVED PARTY DID IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Wrong.

    Lee Atwater was only 4 years old in 1955.

    In the mission statement for the National Review, which was printed in 1955, Buckley wrote that "Conservatism stands athwart history, yelling stop!"...and had you done that research, you would have known that.
    The second racist quote, LV, the one I'd bolded not the one you bolded. It said so in the link you provided. Didn't you notice?


    Did that not make sense to you that I bolded a certain section of your post and then made a specific repy?

    OTOH, we can bet on who said it if you like. Your choice.
    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Really?

    "Conservatism stands athwart history, yelling STOP!" - wrote William F. Buckley in 1955, Godfather of Conservatism, less than six months after Brown v. Board of Education.

    So...yelling STOP to...desegregation. Now, why would a non-racist oppose desegregation and call for it to STOP if they weren't racist or bigoted?

    I'm more than happy to see examples of Conservative legislation or "thought" leaders speaking differently from what Lee Atwater (one of Buckley's proteges) said in 1981:

    You start out in 1954 by saying, “N*****, n*****, n*****.” By 1968 you can’t say “n*****”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N*****, n*****”
    https://www.thenation.com/article/ar...hern-strategy/
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