Impeachment

[Jarod]

A primer on impeachment:

I am asked the question these days about impeachment and how it works. If you want to be able to discuss this issue intelligently and with others who are interested read this primer and you will be good to go with the facts.
Other than some notable specifics, the constitution is fairly vague with the power of impeachment.
The most common misconception is that impeachment is the act of removing a president from his office, this is untrue. Impeachment is the formal accusation of a crime, only after impeachment is a trial held that results in a decision about guilt on the allegations and removal from office.
As spelled out in the Constitution, impeachment of the President, the Vice President and all civil officers of the Untied States is a matter for the House of Representatives and the resulting trial is the duty of the Senate. Removal from office can only take place after conviction and by a two thirds approval vote in the Senate.
The Constitution says “The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” The founding fathers left this up to some interpretation; however it seems clear that a conviction for treason or bribery would require automatic removal while it would be left to the Senate to determine what other high crimes or misdemeanors will result in removal.
Impeachment of a President has only occurred two times, with an additional threatened impeachment in the case of Richard Nixon, who resigned in the face of that threat thus suspending the process. Both Andrew Johnson (1868) and Bill Clinton (1998) were impeached but not convicted of the charges and thus not removed from office.

[Bourbon]

1. First and foremost; "fully" complete the Mueller Report.
   
2. Then back it up with Real House Investigations
   
3. Then take into account, all the State Investigations
   
4. Then Impeach
   

We all know the Trumpbots will not believe anything in the report, no matter what, so just discount them anyway.

[Jarod]

1. First and foremost; "fully" complete the Mueller Report.
   
2. Then back it up with Real House Investigations
   
3. Then take into account, all the State Investigations
   
4. Then Impeach
   

We all know the Trumpbots will not believe anything in the report, no matter what, so just discount them anyway.

I agree, but at that point also look at the clock, look at how strong the evidence is, look at how spineless the Republicans in the Senate are and consider allowing the 2020 election to happen and get rid of him by a vote of the people, if it looks likely.

If we end up having to impeach Rump their will be a generation of idiots who are sure their was a coup de etat.

[Jarod]

Now three presidents have been impeached.

[Earl]

Now three presidents have been impeached.

But none convicted.

Tell us, do you think that 20 Republicans will vote guilty?

Speak right up.

[Earl]

Now three presidents have been impeached.

But none convicted.

Tell us, do you think that 20 Republicans will vote guilty?

Speak right up.

[Jarod]

But none convicted.

Tell us, do you think that 20 Republicans will vote guilty?

Speak right up.

No, but I think they will pay a political price for not doing so, if the American people see all the evidence.

[Earl]

No, but I think they will pay a political price for not doing so, if the American people see all the evidence.

Well, no.

The evidence was supposed to have been presented in the Articles already and neither of the two Articles have compelling evidence that rises to the level of an impeachable and convict-able offense.

[Jarod]

Well, no.

The evidence was supposed to have been presented in the Article already and neither of the two Articles have compelling evidence that rises to the level of an impeachabke offense.

Who says the evidence was supposed to have been presented already?

We have not even gotten past opening statements in the trial. Evidence comes AFTER opening statements.

[Earl]

Who says the evidence was supposed to have been presented already?

We have not even gotten past opening statements in the trial. Evidence comes AFTER opening statements.

ARTICLE I, SECTION 2, CLAUSE 5

Article I, Section 2, Clause 5 says that the House has the sole responsibility of impeachment.

The case presented in the House is adjudicated in the Senate

The evidence is in the Articles and is sorely lacking...they do no rise to the level of impeachable, convict-able offenses.

Not even close.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Jarod,

Now three presidents have been impeached.

But Trump likes to be the first at things.

He could be the first president to be removed by impeachment and conviction.

And he should have no concern for the bad publicity. He himself said any publicity is good publicity.

[Getin the ring]

No, but I think they will pay a political price for not doing so, if the American people see all the evidence.

see you in November, bring Hillary