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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    "Department of Biochemistry" - University of California
    https://biochemistry.ucr.edu/

    "Department of Biophysics" -- Johns Hopkins University
    https://biophysics.jhu.edu/
    Those who think they are god will report so!

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    I resubmit these are simply "old guys rule" prejudices.

    When I was a boy, my father obtained his PhD in Nuclear Physics. He did that because it was the sexy science
    at that time. Now it is not. Hell, he might have trouble finding a job today but for his estimable rep. RIP dad.

    Now its all neuroscience.... in 20 years maybe not. But it is absolutely true that the psychology of yesteryear is not a "thing"
    anymore. It is NOT psuedoscience. It is MASSIVELY funded hard core science requiring the bedrock stats, computer science, high tech
    lab work, chemistry, genetic sequencing and everything these human living Trumptarded fossils consider real "science"

    They can control your body putting a photon probe in the proper region of your brain and make you suck putin cock now, if they so choose.


    They are just old and irrelevant. This should be a no dinosaur forum. It would eliminate 20 kinds of Archie Bunker dumb from the dialogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I disagree with everything you said. Science is science. I barely even understood what you said.
    Ok lol.

    Thought experiment: you’re suspended over a pit of hungry crocodiles. If a statement you make isn’t objectively true, a trap door opens and you fall into the pit of crocs.

    Pick your claim:

    You make the statement that the Theory of Gravity is true.

    You claim man is descended from a less evolved ancestor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Ok lol.

    Thought experiment: you’re suspended over a pit of hungry crocodiles. If a statement you make isn’t objectively true, a trap door opens and you fall into the pit of crocs.

    Pick your claim:

    You make the statement that the Theory of Gravity is true.

    You claim man is descended from a less evolved ancestor.
    Not playing your game. By the way, there is not agreement in physics that they understand gravity.

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    Originally Posted by Darth Omar
    A for effort in conflating the three separate disciplines lol.

    Why is it so difficult to accept that some claims of science are stronger than others?


    Because you are simply old, out of touch and don't know anything? Am I warm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    I resubmit these are simply "old guys rule" prejudices.

    When I was a boy, my father obtained his PhD in Nuclear Physics. He did that because it was the sexy science
    at that time. Now it is not. Hell, he might have trouble finding a job today but for his estimable rep. RIP dad.

    Now its all neuroscience.... in 20 years maybe not. But it is absolutely true that the psychology of yesteryear is not a "thing"
    anymore. It is NOT psuedoscience. It is MASSIVELY funded hard core science requiring the bedrock stats, computer science, high tech
    lab work, chemistry, genetic sequencing and everything these human living Trumptarded fossils consider real "science"

    They can control your body putting a photon probe in the proper region of your brain and make you suck putin cock now, if they so choose.


    They are just old and irrelevant. This should be a no dinosaur forum. It would eliminate 20 kinds of Archie Bunker dumb from the dialogue.
    Genetics is the hot science now, and that is where most funding is going.

    Physics is a venerable and traditional science, but the interest in funding big projects for particle physics and nuclear physics has waned since the Cold War ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Ok lol.

    Thought experiment: you’re suspended over a pit of hungry crocodiles. If a statement you make isn’t objectively true, a trap door opens and you fall into the pit of crocs.

    Pick your claim:

    You make the statement that the Theory of Gravity is true.

    You claim man is descended from a less evolved ancestor.
    A theory is a hypothesis with supporting evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Ok lol.

    Thought experiment: you’re suspended over a pit of hungry crocodiles. If a statement you make isn’t objectively true, a trap door opens and you fall into the pit of crocs.

    Pick your claim:

    You make the statement that the Theory of Gravity is true.

    You claim man is descended from a less evolved ancestor.
    We know our understanding of gravity, aka general relativity. is incomplete and perhaps in need of wholesale revision.

    General relativity cannot explain dark energy and the accelerated expansion of the universe.

    General relativity breaks down at quantum scales, and the hunt for a quantum theory of gravity is an active area of research.

    The fact that an apple falls to the ground, or a body falls into a crocodile pit is an observation. An observation only.

    It has no explanatory power.

    The theory of evolution is secure and at least as firmly established as general relativity -- even though we know both theories are incomplete and there is a lot more to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Since science is committed to philosophic naturalism [only purely natural explanations may be invoked for any phenomena] evidence of a divine Providence is impossible for science to discover, since such evidence is disqualified at the outset.
    That's right.
    Divine providence is outside the realm of inductive logic and scientific inquiry.

    But you know as well as I do that biblethumpers latch onto to any uncertainty in a scientific theory, and imply that the uncertainty somehow lends support to a providential act of creation.

    I have never categorically ruled out the possibility of providential design. But providential design is never, ever, under any circumstances implied or supported by scientific uncertainty.

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    Ok lol.

    Thought experiment: you’re suspended over a pit of hungry crocodiles. If a statement you make isn’t objectively true, a trap door opens and you fall into the pit of crocs.

    Pick your claim:

    You make the statement that the Theory of Gravity is true.

    You claim man is descended from a less evolved ancestor.

    Depends, is the truth tester a retarded Trumpling or a scientist?

    FWIW I pick the evolution related one. Is the extant theory of gravity "true?" I have little confidence that it is. Less so that even 1 % of the human pop can conceive of it to any degree of certainty.

    Classical mechanics predicts an apple will fall with great certainty. Fossils declare we evolved from apes with equal certainty.
    That shit is around the margins, truth is a core we haven't or may not penetrate due to the human condition (the goldfish seeing outside the bowl problem)
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    I think gravity is just that, an acceleration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    That's right.
    Divine providence is outside the realm of inductive logic and scientific inquiry.

    But you know as well as I do that biblethumpers latch onto to any uncertainty in a scientific theory, and imply that the uncertainty somehow lends support to a providential act of creation.

    I have never categorically ruled out the possibility of providential design. But providential design is never, ever, under any circumstances implied or supported by scientific uncertainty.
    Nor is it buttressed by perceived complexity or a prejudice favoring design. Yes, God in the gaps is always an obvious ploy.

    What about this fossil. Where's that fossils fossil. Here it is. What about that ones? Here. and so forth ad nausium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I think gravity is just that, an acceleration.
    I think invisible space gobbling gremlins chew the next piece of spacetime to get to the delicious piece of mass.
    That's why it looks like matter attracts at a distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Nor is it buttressed by perceived complexity or a prejudice favoring design. Yes, God in the gaps is always an obvious ploy.

    What about this fossil. Where's that fossils fossil. Here it is. What about that ones? Here. and so forth ad nausium.
    Satan created the fossil record to decieve us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    I think invisible space gobbling gremlins chew the next piece of spacetime to get to the delicious piece of mass.
    That's why it looks like matter attracts at a distance.
    Correct. Space gremlins help to bend the space-time.

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