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    Default Trump, "If we can hold deaths down to 100 to 200k, we've done a very good job."

    TRUMP is grooming AMERICA to accept 100K - 200K deaths. It will likely be a CAMPAIGN TALKING POINT!

    groom - prepare or train (someone) for a particular purpose or activity.

    Jason Sparks@sparksjls

    “If we have between 100,000 and 200,000 we’ve all together done a very good job,” Trump says, about up to 200,000 Americans dying of #COVID19.

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    Last edited by Centerleftfl; 03-30-2020 at 10:32 PM.
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    80,000 Americans died from A(H3N2) in 2017. But that was just flu, amirite crazy bitch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    TRUMP is grooming AMERICA to accept 100 - 200K deaths. It will likely also be a CAMPAIGN TALKING POINT!

    Jason Sparks@sparksjls

    “If we have between 100,000 and 200,000 we’ve all together done a very good job,” Trump says, about up to 200,000 Americans dying of #COVID19.

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    Not long ago, the most widely accepted model was predicting upwards of 2 million dead Americans from Coronavirus. Be honest, if Trump kept the number down to one death, you'd attack him for that. Your Trump derangement makes you look ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
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    80,000 Americans died from A(H3N2) in 2017. But that was just flu, amirite crazy bitch?
    Would you dumbasses FIND SOMETHING to land on? There's an idiot on this board using fucked up numbers in REALLY big PRINT about OBAMAS H1N1, at 10,000 deaths. Now you are MIXING 2 viruses with over 2 or 4 years and/or using the WRONG YEAR and/or using the wrong virus #'s? NO MORE FUCKING RABBIT HOLES. YOU are a waste of time and oxygen on the planet.

    Go ahead folks, google HIS nomenclature...
    A(H3N2) (Keep in MIND, Republicans probably have a different GOOGLE than the rest of us). See if you can find his #'s. I'm not spending any more time on his BULLSHIT.


    Influenza A (H3N2) Variant Virus



    Influenza viruses that normally circulate in pigs are called “variant” viruses when they are found in people. Influenza A H3N2 variant viruses (also known as “H3N2v” viruses) with the matrix (M) gene from the 2009 H1N1 pandemic virus were first detected in people in July 2011. The viruses were first identified in U.S. pigs in 2010. During 2011, 12 human infections with H3N2v were detected. During 2012, there were multiple outbreaks of H3N2v resulting in 309 reported cases. Sporadic infections with H3N2v have continued to be detected since that time. Infections with H3N2v have mostly been associated with prolonged exposure to pigs at agricultural fairs. Limited human-to-human spread of this virus has been detected in the past as well but no sustained or community spread of H3N2v has been identified at this time. It’s possible that sporadic infections and even localized outbreaks among people with this virus will continue to occur. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) continues to monitor this situation closely and will report cases of H3N2v and other variant influenza viruses weekly in FluView.

    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    Not long ago, the most widely accepted model was predicting upwards of 2 million dead Americans from Coronavirus. Be honest, if Trump kept the number down to one death, you'd attack him for that. Your Trump derangement makes you look ridiculous.
    Trump makes Trump look ridiculous.
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    TRUMP is grooming AMERICA to accept 100 - 200K deaths. It will likely also be a CAMPAIGN TALKING POINT!

    Jason Sparks@sparksjls

    “If we have between 100,000 and 200,000 we’ve all together done a very good job,” Trump says, about up to 200,000 Americans dying of #COVID19.

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    lol, if biden was smart or even around he would make it one... trump is already trying to move the goal posts, & no one around to stop him...
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Trump makes Trump look ridiculous.
    Thanks for proving my point.

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    Shut the fuck up you dopey cunt, the figures are clear enough, not my fault you're pathologically stupid.

    The 2017-2018 flu season was historically severe. Public health officials estimate that 900,000 Americans were hospitalized and 80,000 died from the flu and its complications. For comparison, the previous worst season from the past decade, 2010-2011, saw 56,000 deaths. In a typical season, 30,000 Americans die.

    So why was the 2017-2018 season such a bad year for flu? There were two big factors.

    First, one of the circulating strains of the influenza virus, A(H3N2), is particularly virulent, and vaccines targeting it are less effective than those aimed at other strains. In addition, most of the vaccine produced was mismatched to the circulating A(H3N2) subtype.

    These problems reflect the special biology of the influenza virus and the methods by which vaccines are produced.

    Flu virus is a quick change artist, influenza is not a single, static virus. There are three species – A, B and C – that can infect people. A is the most serious and C is rare, producing only mild symptoms. Flu is further divided into various subtypes and strains, based on the viral properties.

    Viruses consist of protein packages surrounding the viral genome, which, in the influenza virus, consists of RNA divided into eight separate segments. The influenza virus is enveloped by a membrane layer derived from the host cell. Sticking through this membrane are spikes made up of the proteins haemagglutinin (HA) and neuraminidase (NA), both of which are required for the virus to successfully cause an infection.

    Your immune system reacts first to these two proteins. Their properties determine the H and N designations of various viral strains – for instance, the H1N1 “swine flu” that swept the globe in 2009.

    Both HA and NA proteins are constantly changing. The process that copies the viral RNA genome is inherently sloppy, plus these two proteins are under strong pressure to evolve so they can evade attack by the immune system. This evolution of the HA and NA proteins, called antigenic drift, prevents people from developing lasting immunity to the virus. Although the immune system may be prepared to shutdown previously encountered strains, even slight changes can require the development of a completely new immune response before the infected person becomes resistant. Thus we have seasonal flu outbreaks.

    In addition, various subtypes of influenza A infect animals, the most important of which, for humans, are domestic birds and pigs. If an animal is simultaneously infected with two different subtypes, the segments of their genomes can be scrambled together. Any resulting virus may have new properties, to which humans may have little or no immune defense. This process, called antigenic shift, is responsible for the major pandemics that have swept the world in the last century.

    Against this background of antigenic change, every year the World Health Organization predicts which strains of flu virus will be circulating during the next flu season, and vaccines are formulated based on this information.
    https://theconversation.com/why-did-...st-year-105095

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    And they continue to defend him.

    The Trump suckers are even more moronic than the Hitler supporters.
    ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!

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    Hey Fauci is the one who said if we do everything perfectly that 200,000 will die. Do you not believe Fauci?

    I believe Fauci is a deep state prick and doesn't know what he is talking about or is misleading people

    But, when the death rate is much less than that, yes Trump can take credit since you would blame him for everything anyway

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    The OP can fuck himself with a COVID19 infected dildo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Would you dumbasses FIND SOMETHING to land on? There's an idiot on this board using fucked up numbers in REALLY big PRINT about OBAMAS H1N1, at 10,000 deaths. Now you are MIXING 2 viruses with over 2 or 4 years and/or using the WRONG YEAR and/or using the wrong virus #'s? NO MORE FUCKING RABBIT HOLES. YOU are a waste of time and oxygen on the planet.

    Go ahead folks, google HIS nomenclature...
    A(H3N2) (Keep in MIND, Republicans probably have a different GOOGLE than the rest of us). See if you can find his #'s. I'm not spending any more time on his BULLSHIT.


    Influenza A (H3N2) Variant Virus



    Influenza viruses that normally circulate in pigs are called “variant” viruses when they are found in people. Influenza A H3N2 variant viruses (also known as “H3N2v” viruses) with the matrix (M) gene from the 2009 H1N1 pandemic virus were first detected in people in July 2011. The viruses were first identified in U.S. pigs in 2010. During 2011, 12 human infections with H3N2v were detected. During 2012, there were multiple outbreaks of H3N2v resulting in 309 reported cases. Sporadic infections with H3N2v have continued to be detected since that time. Infections with H3N2v have mostly been associated with prolonged exposure to pigs at agricultural fairs. Limited human-to-human spread of this virus has been detected in the past as well but no sustained or community spread of H3N2v has been identified at this time. It’s possible that sporadic infections and even localized outbreaks among people with this virus will continue to occur. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) continues to monitor this situation closely and will report cases of H3N2v and other variant influenza viruses weekly in FluView.

    You should take a break I bet you can't, can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    Not long ago, the most widely accepted model was predicting upwards of 2 million dead Americans from Coronavirus. Be honest, if Trump kept the number down to one death, you'd attack him for that. Your Trump derangement makes you look ridiculous.
    Indeed.

    Center lefty is a colossal waste of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    You should take a break I bet you can't, can you?
    You should mind your own business. I bet you can't, can you?

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    80,000 U.S. deaths in a year from normal Flu, is not abnormal.

    That's over 200 deaths per day.
    And most of those deaths occur during the 6 months of flu season.
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