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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I’m waiting, “vehicles cannot be necessary”. You claim you’re an author of the Constitution. Which part did you write?

    Get back to us. We’re all curious.
    Lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    There you go again with the nonsense. Taxation is not government slavery. Taxation is approved by the representatives We the People elect. Libertarianism is a political pathology that endangers us all.
    What about taxation that is not approved by the people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post


    You still haven’t told the forum, laughable cunt, which section of the Constitution you authored.

    Amazing that you could come up with the top 2 stupidest posts this forum has ever seen. Statistics say there should be a different distribution.

    lololololololol
    You still stuck on this lie? Now you're compounding it with a contextomy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. None of the 27 amendments to the Constitution have been proposed by constitutional convention.

    https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution
    Look, idiot. Proposing an amendment is not passing the amendment. Congress cannot ratify it's own amendment proposals! ONLY the States can change the Constitution and ONLY by the procedures set forth in that Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    That makes no more sense than all the views they share with conservatives.

    Think this through. You are so much brighter than idiot boy, StY.
    They share views with liberals (social issues/civil liberties) and conservatives (economic issues).

    You said "Libertarianism is a political pathology that endangers us all." That means the liberal elements and conservative elements libertarians share with both are both political pathologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    They share views with liberals (social issues/civil liberties) and conservatives (economic issues).

    You said "Libertarianism is a political pathology that endangers us all." That means the liberal elements and conservative elements libertarians share with both are both political pathologies.
    that must also mean that liberal and conservative policies endanger us all...........go figure
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Lie. The Court does not have authority to usurp authority over the Constitution. Time makes no difference.
    It does not usurp authority, it performs the function of interpreting the document which is often written in broad and vague terms. The Constitution obviously does not interpret itself or there would not be legal debates over these issues.

    For example, when you claim the power to make laws regarding naturalization include the power over immigration, that is not in the Constitution. You are discovering it in some broader definition of the document; in other words, you are changing what the Constitution actually says and giving it greater power then the specific wording. That is why it requires court interpretation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    that must also mean that liberal and conservative policies endanger us all...........go figure
    That is at least as accurate as the claim that only liberal or only conservative policies endanger us.

    It is impossible for libertarian policies to endanger us because they never get anything passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    They share views with liberals (social issues/civil liberties) and conservatives (economic issues).

    You said "Libertarianism is a political pathology that endangers us all." That means the liberal elements and conservative elements libertarians share with both are both political pathologies.
    Not in the slightest. The fallacy is one of difference not kind. We are all human, Hitler was human, thus we are the same as Hitler.

    Libertarianism is the flip side of communism: both are pathological in terms of dominating the weaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    It does not usurp authority, it performs the function of interpreting the document which is often written in broad and vague terms. The Constitution obviously does not interpret itself or there would not be legal debates over these issues.

    For example, when you claim the power to make laws regarding naturalization include the power over immigration, that is not in the Constitution. You are discovering it in some broader definition of the document; in other words, you are changing what the Constitution actually says and giving it greater power then the specific wording. That is why it requires court interpretation.
    the constitution is very plain and very clear about the powers it gives to the federal government. only lazy minded people claim the constitution is broad and vague
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Not in the slightest. The fallacy is one of difference not kind. We are all human, Hitler was human, thus we are the same as Hitler.

    Libertarianism is the flip side of communism: both are pathological in terms of dominating the weaker.
    that is patently absurd bullshit
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No court has authority over the Constitution. See Article III of the Constitution of the United States.
    Which means the legislative and executive branches are free to take any actions they choose because there is no check on their constitutional powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Which means the legislative and executive branches are free to take any actions they choose because there is no check on their constitutional powers.
    how do you figure that? if congress makes a law that violates the constitution, the courts could simply dismiss every case that the executive would bring forth to it. there's your check
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Not in the slightest. The fallacy is one of difference not kind. We are all human, Hitler was human, thus we are the same as Hitler.

    Libertarianism is the flip side of communism: both are pathological in terms of dominating the weaker.
    Libertarianism does not seek to dominate anybody. They seek the greatest amount of economic and social freedom. Do the social elements liberals share with libertarians seek to dominate the weak?

    Communist theory also does not seek to dominate the weak. But it has always existed in nations with authoritarian political cultures and never reached its utopian goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    how do you figure that? if congress makes a law that violates the constitution, the courts could simply dismiss every case that the executive would bring forth to it. there's your check
    That means the courts are interpreting the Constitution by choosing to dismiss cases they interpret as based on an unconstitutional law.

    That does not solve the problem of presidential actions and legislative laws that do not involve cases brought before the courts. If the president issued an unconstitutional executive order or Congress passed an unconstitutional governmental program (ACC) there are no cases brought to the courts.

    The only cases would be suits challenging the constitutionality of those acts and that involves court interpretation of the Constitution.

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