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    Do you drink dirty or clean water? Why or why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Do you drink dirty or clean water? Why or why not?
    Not to interject, but to interject, How clean is clean enough?

    For example, distilled and RO water are bad for you because they are too acidic. These are two of the cleanest sources of water there are.

    When I was stationed in Bahrain, I'd fill one or two 5 gallon jugs with RO water available on the base. I'd then add about a cup of local water to each jug (it was desalinated but still tasted salty and was very hard) to reduce the acidity and improve the taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Not to interject, but to interject, How clean is clean enough?

    For example, distilled and RO water are bad for you because they are too acidic. These are two of the cleanest sources of water there are.

    When I was stationed in Bahrain, I'd fill one or two 5 gallon jugs with RO water available on the base. I'd then add about a cup of local water to each jug (it was desalinated but still tasted salty and was very hard) to reduce the acidity and improve the taste.
    I’m pretty sure he was referring to government regulations regarding our drinking water.

    RO and distilled are also not good because there are no electrolytes. By osmosis, they suck the electrolytes OUT of your system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Not to interject, but to interject, How clean is clean enough?

    For example, distilled and RO water are bad for you because they are too acidic. These are two of the cleanest sources of water there are.
    Thank you for the addition to my thread. Explain what RO water is. I just looked it up and apparently it has side effects, but I want you to expand it further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Do you drink dirty or clean water? Why or why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Thank you for the addition to my thread. Explain what RO water is. I just looked it up and apparently it has side effects, but I want you to expand it further.

    The Bird Man asked me to define pollution so I did. And he kept asking me to define it.

    If he is for real, I asked this question because it is related to the question.
    RO water is made by Reverse Osmosis. The most common method is to use a mole sieve to remove everything larger than the H2O molecules. Think of this as a screen door to keep out the mosquitos. You force the water through the mole sieve--usually after a prefiltration to remove organics and larger molecules along with things like turbidity (dirt).

    Yea, I had to study up on all this in Bahrain because I was like the enlisted expert to the ROIC (Resident Officer In-charge of Construction). I even got a big cubicle of my own in an otherwise empty office space with nobody else supervising me! I was supposed to be the technical expert advising him on such things (my big concern was the sewage system--bad, bad design...).

    Anyway, the USN was using RO for freshwater on the base, so I became an expert on RO water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    Anyway, the USN was using RO for freshwater on the base, so I became an expert on RO water.
    Why is RO needed on freshwater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Why is RO needed on freshwater?
    They did RO because the local water that is desalinated doesn't meet US standards. It tastes distinctly salty and has TDS (Total Dissolved Solids) well above US standards, among other issues. So the base put in a huge tank that used an RO membrane to clean it up. There were other issues with that I won't discuss because they're related to security of the base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Not to interject, but to interject, How clean is clean enough?

    For example, distilled and RO water are bad for you because they are too acidic. These are two of the cleanest sources of water there are.

    When I was stationed in Bahrain, I'd fill one or two 5 gallon jugs with RO water available on the base. I'd then add about a cup of local water to each jug (it was desalinated but still tasted salty and was very hard) to reduce the acidity and improve the taste.
    I like my water non-toxic and non-disease carrying, but maybe I'm picky.

    Yes, I'm fine with recommended safe levels published by "the experts".
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    They did RO because the local water that is desalinated doesn't meet US standards. It tastes distinctly salty and has TDS (Total Dissolved Solids) well above US standards, among other issues. So the base put in a huge tank that used an RO membrane to clean it up. There were other issues with that I won't discuss because they're related to security of the base.
    A neighbor had a whole house RO unit put in and I was wondering if the problems you experienced would also be present in US water systems.
    THey did it because they were pretty sure tap water was toxic and as this was like 20 years ago these systems were not cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    A neighbor had a whole house RO unit put in and I was wondering if the problems you experienced would also be present in US water systems.
    THey did it because they were pretty sure tap water was toxic and as this was like 20 years ago these systems were not cheap.
    US tap water is safe, even most of the time when the government / powers that be say it isn't. RO can also be an issue with piping in your home due to the acidity. If you want decent tap water--and this depends on where you live-- install a under sink filter for the one sink or two that you use for drinking and cooking water. The rest don't matter. That filter should take care of organics (anerobic "slime" and bacteria grow in pipes), and for 'stuff' that got in the water between the treatment plant and your home (general dirt etc.).
    Beyond that, you can treat for specific stuff where you live like rust, lead, total dissolved solids, taste, odor, etc. They make specific filters to handle that stuff. What you don't want is "pure" water without some hard water in it or ion replacement using salt in a soft water system. Doing it at the faucet is best.

    Change the filter every 90 to 180 days and make sure to wipe out the filter container when you do. That's all there is to that. You get great quality water and it isn't grossly expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    US tap water is safe, even most of the time when the government / powers that be say it isn't. RO can also be an issue with piping in your home due to the acidity. If you want decent tap water--and this depends on where you live-- install a under sink filter for the one sink or two that you use for drinking and cooking water. The rest don't matter. That filter should take care of organics (anerobic "slime" and bacteria grow in pipes), and for 'stuff' that got in the water between the treatment plant and your home (general dirt etc.).
    Beyond that, you can treat for specific stuff where you live like rust, lead, total dissolved solids, taste, odor, etc. They make specific filters to handle that stuff. What you don't want is "pure" water without some hard water in it or ion replacement using salt in a soft water system. Doing it at the faucet is best.

    Change the filter every 90 to 180 days and make sure to wipe out the filter container when you do. That's all there is to that. You get great quality water and it isn't grossly expensive.
    Agreed. 100% correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    US tap water is safe, even most of the time when the government / powers that be say it isn't. RO can also be an issue with piping in your home due to the acidity. If you want decent tap water--and this depends on where you live-- install a under sink filter for the one sink or two that you use for drinking and cooking water. The rest don't matter. That filter should take care of organics (anerobic "slime" and bacteria grow in pipes), and for 'stuff' that got in the water between the treatment plant and your home (general dirt etc.).
    Beyond that, you can treat for specific stuff where you live like rust, lead, total dissolved solids, taste, odor, etc. They make specific filters to handle that stuff. What you don't want is "pure" water without some hard water in it or ion replacement using salt in a soft water system. Doing it at the faucet is best.

    Change the filter every 90 to 180 days and make sure to wipe out the filter container when you do. That's all there is to that. You get great quality water and it isn't grossly expensive.
    thanks. that family (actually the missus) was overly obsessed with any sort of impurities real or imagined.

    I still find it surprising that water (just plain old H2O) is acidic. I would have bet money that it was as neutral a thing as there could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Do you drink dirty or clean water? Why or why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Not to interject, but to interject, How clean is clean enough?

    For example, distilled and RO water are bad for you because they are too acidic. These are two of the cleanest sources of water there are.

    When I was stationed in Bahrain, I'd fill one or two 5 gallon jugs with RO water available on the base. I'd then add about a cup of local water to each jug (it was desalinated but still tasted salty and was very hard) to reduce the acidity and improve the taste.
    He has not yet defined what 'clean' or 'dirty' even mean. He cannot define 'pollution' either. This is a trolling thread. Nothing else.
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