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January 2019 EMERGENCY
Fact: Border apprehensions are at a 45 year low.
There is no crisis at our border. It's fake news.
christiefan915 (01-11-2019), evince (01-11-2019), ThatOwlWoman (01-11-2019)
Hello Gotcha68,
Well, you know, if he couldn't get it approved when Republicans had a majority in both houses, he could have shut down the government THEN.
But he waits until the Democrats take the House. THEN it's some big emergency? Nothing at the border has changed. The only thing that has changed is now he has somebody to BLAME IT ON.
And that's all he ever does.
Takes credit for the good, blames somebody else for the bad.
Totally irresponsible.
Which is why the deficit is so high.
Clinton shut down the government to balance the budget.
Now THERE was a noble cause.
Trump couldn't balance the budget with Republican majorities.
Last edited by PoliTalker; 01-11-2019 at 10:46 AM.
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christiefan915 (01-11-2019), evince (01-11-2019)
"Here's the truth, brothers and sisters, there's plenty of money in the world. Plenty of money in this city, it's just in the wrong hands!”
Mayor de Blasio Says Wealth Is ‘in the Wrong Hands,’ Pledges to Redistribute It
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/n...e-of-city.html
Last edited by bhaktajan; 01-11-2019 at 12:18 PM.
Hello bhaktajan,
What good does it do a society to have lots of wealth in the hands of very few people and lots of people without much wealth?
How is THAT supposed to generate a vibrant economy and widespread prosperity?
Does extreme wealth inequality = Promoting the General Welfare?
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evince (01-11-2019)
Hello bhaktajan,
No.
You didn't answer my question.
I'll do it for you.
"What good does it do a society to have lots of wealth in the hands of very few people and lots of people without much wealth?" - No good.
"How is THAT supposed to generate a vibrant economy and widespread prosperity?" - It won't.
"Does extreme wealth inequality = Promoting the General Welfare?" - No, it is the opposite.
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evince (01-11-2019)
"money doesn't buy happiness but does buy the world's finest $10K/hr escorts" ~ J. Bezos
PoliTalker (01-11-2019)
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Pretty impressive a discussion on marriage can turn into a discussion on a border wall. I made sure to throw in a border wall reference when I proposed.
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Millions of people can put books into a package. Millions of people can’t create great companies. I don’t have a number but I would guess thousands of Amazon workers are now millionaires. They are getting paid. But you have to be able to create value. Putting books into a package will earn you a paycheck but it won’t make you rich
yes i agree...I cited Cuba & Venezuela & Central America etc as examples of such failures.
Can you provide a prime example of a
A society has lots of wealth in the hands of very few people and lots of people without much wealth?
If you can it would be a miserable place like Cuba & Venezuela & Central America etc.
When you say "A society has lots of wealth in the hands of very few people and lots of people without much wealth?" ---I think of Las Vegas...do you know what it costs to Visit Disneyland?
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Googled "costs to Visit Disneyland?"
Real world estimates ranged from $200 per person per day
excluding travel at Disneyland,
to $3,500 for a five-day trip to Disney World,
including airfare.Aug 5, 2015
Hello cawacko,
I understand the current relationship between employers and workers. I understand how Bezos has maximized his leverage on that. And he has done a marvelous job of creating a very profitable organization. Doing that took the work of everybody at Amazon. But their only incentive to work hard is nothing more than fear of losing their meager fixed income. Bezos has them over a barrel and he exploits that. They will work for very little compared to the value their work generates, Bezos pockets the difference. I believe he should share more of the results of that work with the ones whose labor generated it.
Back in the 60's executives earned 10-15 times the average worker. Now it's like 600 times. And it's headed even higher.
That's ridiculous. At some point we have to look at the big picture and see how efficient capitalism has become at exploitation.
Capitalism is a powerful engine of wealth. But it cannot be allowed to run free and wide open. It would destroy the market, destroy society. Like any engine, if allowed to run at full speed it will blow up. It requires regulation. That is government's job. I believe government is not doing it's job here. I believe there should be established a maximum ratio of executive take vs average worker take. If allowed to continue to rise it leads to a run-away situation where the limit is extreme wealth inequality. Completely inefficient. With most wealth in just a few hands, market activity slows down because people don't have much wealth to trade for things.
Extreme wealth inequality is a danger that pro-capitalists refuse to acknowledge. We are headed there. Economists are hitting alarm bells. Capitalists are as busy looking the other way as their were in 2008.
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