Hello Flash,
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Flash
You are saying those well paying jobs are worse than working in a nursing home, convenience store, or retail clerk?
Nope. That's what you just said. If you want to know what I said you will have to look at my post.
Originally Posted by
Flash
You also say 44 million Americans need well-paying jobs but apparently don't want to do the kind of "undesirable" work that earns them that money. I don't think engineers (most are not on drilling rigs), web developer, or software developers are undesirable, especially compared to the $10 an hour jobs. And yes, nursing is a hard job, but millions to it and make good money (RNs). It sounds like you want people to have good paying jobs that don't have to work too hard or have any training or skills.
It's funny. I say one thing, you hear another. It's like you take what I actually said and then you embellish it, dress it up, make it what you want to respond to. Ya know what that's called? You're making a straw man argument. Nothing could say I have you more than your inability to address my post and your need to try to turn it into something that's easier for you to dispute. You take my excellent argument and you rewrite it and make it a spineless straw man that is easy for you to rip to shreds, then you rip the straw man to shreds and dance around in glee admiring your cleverness. I am sorry to say with this effort you're only fooling yourself. Any time you reread one of your posts prior to posting, and you see yourself writing this phrase: "So what you're saying is...." that should be a warning signal that maybe you are creating another straw man. I already know what I said. I don't need you to paraphrase it and fool yourself that I said something easier for you to dispute. And you are certainly doing yourself a disfavor by pretending to respond to some imaginary thing which was never said.
Most of the 44 million working poor are stuck in lives they can't easily change. They lack the motivation to better themselves. Their time is spent working and commuting and then trying to actually enjoy what little of their life is left over after their obligations are met. They often have children depending on them. They may drink, they may smoke, they watch TV. Capitalism plays to their weaknesses. They want things. They don't budget themselves very well. They probably drive a 'Buy Here Pay Here' rip-off car that drains their earnings. They may utilize a 'Payday Loan Shark' joint to further their difficulties as they try to rectify their hopelessness. They are putty compared to the psycho-analytics used by professional marketers. Whatever their weakness is, it will be exploited for profit by somebody with more capital than they have (which is usually zero.) Wanna know where they went wrong to get into this rut? They got born into the wrong life. If only they were born with a silver spoon in their mouth like Trump.
Originally Posted by
Flash
I don't think most of those highly paid unskilled jobs are undesirable as much as there are not enough people qualified to fill them. That is why maniy are filled with people from places like India.
Ah. Finally we get your opinion and honest response to what I said. Thank you. Now we can begin an honest discussion. Now I can respond.
Then what happened to American superiority? We are not better than them? Ya wanna know why some well-paying jobs go to people from India? Several reasons. One of those reasons is that those are the jobs Americans don't want because they have seen how good jobs are. They can clearly see that a lot of these unfilled well-paying jobs can be dangerous or make it impossible to have a daily family life. Since employers are able to get desperate applicants from places of zero opportunity those jobs do not pay what they actually should to compensate for their undesirability.
Originally Posted by
Flash
"At the end of January, the US economy had 7.6 million unfilled jobs, but only 6.5 million people were looking for work, according to data released Friday by the US Department of Labor. This was the 11th straight month that the number of job openings was higher than the number of job seekers. And each month, the gap has grown.
Very good. Now we are talking about facts. 7.6 million unfilled jobs but no stats on how much all those jobs pay. No problem, I can guess most of them are nothing anybody can live on.
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Flash
Employers have been complaining about a shortage of skilled workers in recent years, particularly workers with advanced degrees in STEM fields. Nearly ever industry now has a labor shortage, but here’s the twist: Employers are having a harder time filling blue-collar positions than professional positions that require a college education."
I wonder what it's like to be in the working poor. I don't know. I have it good. I had good parents, got a good education, never had a problem. It must be hell to be raised by unsuccessful parents who don't know how to prepare a child for success because they don't know them selves how to be successful. And to never be told or made to understand what the three most important decisions in life are: 1. What kind of education to pursue. 2. Who to marry. 3 Whether or not to have children and when.
Most people, lacking any better direction, rebel against their parents and want to do their own thing. Lacking good guidance and having no immediate example of how to have a good life they screw up the 3 most important decisions of their lives and set themselves into a path which is very difficult to overcome. I think we have to mold our education system into more than it is in order to make up for the lack of good parenting in the working poor.
Education and good guidance are the solution to desperation and hopelessness. And along the way we need a big government to force greed out of capitalism with strong oversight and effective regulation. It's always a challenge, and one we have not been prevailing in. If we pursue this philosophy, we will motivate young people to better themselves and we will provide the opportunity for them to excel.
Simply blaming the poor will not do it.
Certainly, removing government from the free market is a disaster in the making, sure to produce extreme wealth inequality and promote the general hopelessness and despair.
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