The FACTS About Flu Compared to Covid-19

[Walt]

If flu deaths were counted like COVID-19 deaths, the worst recent flu season evidently killed 15,620 Americans
The Week
Peter Weber
,The Week•May 1, 2020

The U.S. now has more than 63,000 confirmed COVID-19 deaths, and most experts say that's almost certainly an undercount. Still, if you compare that number to the 2017-18 flu season, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates killed 61,000 people, it looks like COVID-19 might be similar to a bad flu — President Trump has made this point, as have many conservative media personalities. But the data so far show that this new coronavirus is much more lethal than the flu, and Dr. Jeremy Samuel Faust has an explanation.

Faust, a Harvard Medical School instructor and emergency physician at Brigham & Women's Hospital in Boston, wrote in Scientific American that he started wondering about the flu-to-COVID comparisons when it occurred to him that in nearly eight years of hospital work, "I had almost never seen anyone die of the flu." Neither had any of the colleagues he called around the country. So he did some research, and this is what he found:

The 25,000 to 69,000 numbers that Trump cited do not represent counted flu deaths per year; they are estimates that the CDC produces by multiplying the number of flu death counts reported by various coefficients produced through complicated algorithms. These coefficients are based on assumptions of how many cases, hospitalizations, and deaths they believe went unreported. In the last six flu seasons, the CDC's reported number of actual confirmed flu deaths — that is, counting flu deaths the way we are currently counting deaths from the coronavirus — has ranged from 3,448 to 15,620. [Jeremy Faust, Scientific American]

So in an apples-to-apples comparison, matching the second week of April's COVID-19 deaths to the worst week of the past seven flu seasons, "the novel coronavirus killed between 9.5 and 44 times more people than seasonal flu," Faust writes. Read his entire essay at Scientific American.

[tsuke]

ok lets call it 100,000 dead.

Compare that to the millions who will die worldwide as the UN says we are about to have famines of biblical proportions due to the disruptions caused by the lockdowns and of course the richer nations have no money left to give because they are not earning anything.

[canceled.2021.2]

You have completely flip flopped

ROFLMAO

what a fucking worthless hack you are

Still a nothing burger

[Darth Omar]

If flu deaths were counted like COVID-19 deaths, the worst recent flu season evidently killed 15,620 Americans
The Week
Peter Weber
,The Week•May 1, 2020

The U.S. now has more than 63,000 confirmed COVID-19 deaths, and most experts say that's almost certainly an undercount. Still, if you compare that number to the 2017-18 flu season, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates killed 61,000 people, it looks like COVID-19 might be similar to a bad flu — President Trump has made this point, as have many conservative media personalities. But the data so far show that this new coronavirus is much more lethal than the flu, and Dr. Jeremy Samuel Faust has an explanation.

Faust, a Harvard Medical School instructor and emergency physician at Brigham & Women's Hospital in Boston, wrote in Scientific American that he started wondering about the flu-to-COVID comparisons when it occurred to him that in nearly eight years of hospital work, "I had almost never seen anyone die of the flu." Neither had any of the colleagues he called around the country. So he did some research, and this is what he found:

The 25,000 to 69,000 numbers that Trump cited do not represent counted flu deaths per year; they are estimates that the CDC produces by multiplying the number of flu death counts reported by various coefficients produced through complicated algorithms. These coefficients are based on assumptions of how many cases, hospitalizations, and deaths they believe went unreported. In the last six flu seasons, the CDC's reported number of actual confirmed flu deaths — that is, counting flu deaths the way we are currently counting deaths from the coronavirus — has ranged from 3,448 to 15,620. [Jeremy Faust, Scientific American]

So in an apples-to-apples comparison, matching the second week of April's COVID-19 deaths to the worst week of the past seven flu seasons, "the novel coronavirus killed between 9.5 and 44 times more people than seasonal flu," Faust writes. Read his entire essay at Scientific American.

I read that and get the impression I’m being baffled with bullshit lol.

[moon]

I read that and get the impression I’m being baffled with bullshit lol.

Deaths exploded to 62 yet ?

[Darth Omar]

Deaths exploded to 62 yet ?

It surpassed that and now the 60,000 deaths are being celebrated because it may finally mean the end of Trump.

How’d OH turn out with their 100,000 COVID cases?

[moon]

It surpassed that and now the 60,000 deaths are being celebrated because it may finally mean the end of Trump.

Show your evidence of these ' celebrations '- or stfu.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Deaths exploded to 62 yet ?

62,000.

[PostmodernProphet]

Show your evidence of these ' celebrations '- or stfu.

this board in general, the OP in particular....

[jimmymccready]

So the alt right continues to demonstrate that numbers and stats are foreign lands to them.

[ThatOwlWoman]

So the alt right continues to demonstrate that numbers and stats are foreign lands to them.

The really sad thing is that it's the RW's base that is most threatened by this virus -- they tend to be the elderly (over 60) age group.

[cancel2 2022]

I read that and get the impression I’m being baffled with bullshit lol.

I'll have to rename him Walt Bullshitman.

[Iolo/Penderyn]

As the Russian czars and other European tyrants used to take for granted, ignorant peasants are easy to brainwash and organise. At a push, they will happily cut off their noses and sexual organs for their masters, as long as they can still hate somebody they think weaker!

[ThatOwlWoman]

As the Russian czars and other European tyrants used to take for granted, ignorant peasants are easy to brainwash and organise. At a push, they will happily cut off their noses and sexual organs for their masters, as long as they can still hate somebody they think weaker!

Very true, as well as echoed by an American president:

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." -- LBJ

[cancel2 2022]

The really sad thing is that it's the RW's base that is most threatened by this virus -- they tend to be the elderly (over 60) age group.

Stay where you are in the land that time forgot .