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    it's so perfectly brilliant

    I love how they can't admit what islam actually says. They want to say it's offensive, but they can't because islam is a beautiful religion.

    but if they pretend to agree with islam, then they know they are implicitly being anti-women.

    so their npc brians meltdown and they instead just engage in doublethink.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Punch View Post
    it's so perfectly brilliant

    I love how they can't admit what islam actually says. They want to say it's offensive, but they can't because islam is a beautiful religion.

    but if they pretend to agree with islam, then they know they are implicitly being anti-women.

    so their npc brians meltdown and they instead just engage in doublethink.
    Who says we agree with any of it. If the right wants Christian freedom they have to know Islam's freedom falls under the same guise in America. You can't just pull bullshit though since your religions don't supersede secular law. You can't degrade or mistreat people. Islam can't treat women as 2nd rate citizens any more than wannabe Christians can deny gays their rights.

    The big issue with Islam is it hasn't evolved much It's starting to in places though. It's still got a lot of the archaic nature of the day and age of inception. Back in those days in the Middle East, women and children were basically treated like property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Who says we agree with any of it. If the right wants Christian freedom they have to know Islam's freedom falls under the same guise in America. You can't just pull bullshit though since your religions don't supersede secular law. You can't degrade or mistreat people. Islam can't treat women as 2nd rate citizens any more than wannabe Christians can deny gays their rights.

    The big issue with Islam is it hasn't evolved much It's starting to in places though. It's still got a lot of the archaic nature of the day and age of inception. Back in those days in the Middle East, women and children were basically treated like property.
    Back in those days the same was true of Christian-dominated regions too, including Europe and America.

    Adherents of Islam, just like with adherents of Judaism and Christianity, span a spectrum of beliefs from liberal to very conservative. For example, I worked on a political candidate's campaign for U.S. Rep. in 2010 and 2014. Two of my fellow workers were 18-yo twins from Tehran, Iran. Their parents are highly educated and had money, and were able to escape the country by migrating to the U.S. The girls speak perfect English along with the usual vernacular. Although they have all remained Muslims, the young ladies dress in Western style and did not adopt the traditional head coverings. They're both college grads now and still very politically active.

    So yeah, just because *some* adherents of Islam still treat women as chattel and less than human, doesn't mean that *all* believers do.
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    Before people understood the connection between sex and babies, women seemed magical because they produced babies (that was in early agricultural societies), and the early religions were Earth-Mother-ish. On the steppes they bred animals, so they grasped that men had a role - but they supposed the man just put his seed in the ground, which is all women were. It is all childishly primitive, but Father-religions (which is what we tend to have) reflect the second stage. Silly for us to run down one another's, surely - they're all about perfectly understandable history. It is time we all grew up, that's all.

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    Islam IS right about women if you read the Qur'an. Now some of its adherents, not so much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Islam IS right about women if you read the Qur'an. Now some of its adherents, not so much.
    No different than the Bible and how it is interpreted by some fundamentalist Xtians and some extreme conservative Jews (OT that is, not the entire Bible). They claim that scriptures make women 2nd-class to men, subservient, submissive, basically property to do with as the man wishes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    No different than the Bible and how it is interpreted by some fundamentalist Xtians and some extreme conservative Jews (OT that is, not the entire Bible). They claim that scriptures make women 2nd-class to men, subservient, submissive, basically property to do with as the man wishes.
    Bingo!


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Islam IS right about women if you read the Qur'an. Now some of its adherents, not so much.
    let me guess, you just pay attention to the good stuff and ignore all the bad stuff?

    pretty sure the quran says you shouldn't be arguing with us men at all. also you shouldn't be testifying in court, among many other things. keep living in denial.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    No different than the Bible and how it is interpreted by some fundamentalist Xtians and some extreme conservative Jews (OT that is, not the entire Bible). They claim that scriptures make women 2nd-class to men, subservient, submissive, basically property to do with as the man wishes.
    all major religions are vastly outdated. however, people that ignore the bad stuff aren't really christians, they just belong to a special social club and that's it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Punch View Post
    it's so perfectly brilliant

    I love how they can't admit what islam actually says. They want to say it's offensive, but they can't because islam is a beautiful religion.

    but if they pretend to agree with islam, then they know they are implicitly being anti-women.

    so their npc brians meltdown and they instead just engage in doublethink.
    Liberals are not in favor of Islam. We're just opposed to persecution of Muslims. This is something Trumpsters get confused, sometimes on purpose.
    I don't like that Palestine is Muslim, but I also don't like that Israel is committing war crimes against the Palestinians and we're funding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Punch View Post
    all major religions are vastly outdated. however, people that ignore the bad stuff aren't really christians, they just belong to a special social club and that's it.
    Your statement is almost word-for-word what Mr. Owl says about religion as well, at least as practiced in the U.S. To a very few it's a real faith thing; for most though it's as you said -- a social club.
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