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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Right Wing talking point? I've never heard any of the morons here reference liberal arts degrees. Psych degrees are right ahead of it w/respect to worthlessness. You don't click links, so I don't know how to have this discussion with you. This is one of hundreds of links that show which degrees will pay the worst return.
    I'm against the mindset that you must have a college degree in order to exist in this economy. That's last century's thinking.

    I don't believe in throwing good money away, just to give kids a 4 year vacation from life. If they want to create a program of approved fields of study that one can get for 'free', then I might be swayed.

    Again...we already have debt forgiveness programs in place. We can do means testing for 'free' tuition, but an across the board program of free tuition doesn't make one bit of sense.

    Trade schools? That's a different story.


    Most useless degrees

    https://www.thesimpledollar.com/10-w...-earn-in-2015/
    It's not free you dumbass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    No they don't.

    I, and my employer, pay for my health insurance.

    You aren't paying a single penny for it.
    And both of you take that money as a tax credit
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Farmers have always been subsidized. This is above and beyond the programs already in place.
    No, it's not. You just want China's Socialist to dominate the world.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    About 30% of his voters did(vote for Trump because of racism) Many others just wanted tax cuts, abortion bans, and a skewed Supreme Court.
    None of those things are true, IMO

    there are always bad apples that can twist things the way they want to read them,
    just as I suppose you can say a large number of Hillary's voters voted for her because of X

    and who doesn't want tax cuts, abortion to most sane people is the same on either side, I don't like it but I believe it's a womans choice, I would hope you felt the same.

    the Supreme court is another story altogether , Admit we needed a balance for someone who thinks like RBG

    Most people vote on a gut feeling about someone, I found Hillary despicable as a human being, cunning, cheating sneaky little heathen,
    I saw Trump as a Washington outsider, that chance to finally get a guy in there that would shake things up. and boy did he
    This just In::: Trump indicted for living in liberals heads and not paying RENT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    A motivated hard working go getter can still get a college ed at a public school without mortgaging her future.

    But if you pay 100K to go to culinary school I don't have much sympathy. Maybe Stanford isn't in your future,
    but you can have a damn nice future at some lesser in state option, whatever your state.

    Stay in state, pick a major with prospects, don't party too hard and hustle your ass. It will work out in the long run.


    Oh, and don't fucking have children until you are at least 34 and gainfully employed, and no more than 2.

    Lecture over.
    This
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    And both of you take that money as a tax credit
    Are you gfm7175's tax preparer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    No, it's not. You just want China's Socialist to dominate the world.
    Bullshit. trump killed the soy bean market, and is now providing his own brand of Socialism to get votes.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    Hey I'm on board with all of the above,

    but withhold judgement based on two things
    the total cost, is it sustainable
    and how will providers react to receiving less monies for services, considerably less I would presume

    In theory it is a no-brainer, take it out of my paycheck and there is no cost to me outside of that, it would soon just get washed in with wages expectations

    and who doesn't want a better chance at retiring early
    S.S. is unsustainable in its current form yet you want to increase benefits and lower the retirement age? I mean sure why not right? Throw in free college, free healthcare. What else would you like the government to provide you for "free"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    And both of you take that money as a tax credit
    No idea what you are smoking...

    The only people who pay for my health insurance are myself and my employer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Are you gfm7175's tax preparer?
    Apparently so... Althea apparently knows more about my and my employer's tax forms and health insurance than I do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Doesn't that water down the funding? Why not just use a good portion of that money to create public sector jobs?
    Why not both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Apparently so... Althea apparently knows more about my and my employer's tax forms than I do...
    Ever notice how so many on the left make statements that they could, in no way, have the knowledge to make?

    Althea also made the claim that 30% of those that voted for Trump did so due to racism. Did Althea survey everyone that voted for Trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Why not both?
    Why don't you stop begging for someone else to support your lazy ass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Right Wing talking point? I've never heard any of the morons here reference liberal arts degrees. Psych degrees are right ahead of it w/respect to worthlessness. You don't click links, so I don't know how to have this discussion with you. This is one of hundreds of links that show which degrees will pay the worst return.
    I'm against the mindset that you must have a college degree in order to exist in this economy. That's last century's thinking.

    I don't believe in throwing good money away, just to give kids a 4 year vacation from life. If they want to create a program of approved fields of study that one can get for 'free', then I might be swayed.

    Again...we already have debt forgiveness programs in place. We can do means testing for 'free' tuition, but an across the board program of free tuition doesn't make one bit of sense.

    Trade schools? That's a different story.


    Most useless degrees

    https://www.thesimpledollar.com/10-w...-earn-in-2015/


    Then you haven't been paying attention. They tout liberal arts degree is worthless.

    Education should be free.....any education.

    Exclusion is what is wrong with America today.

    Americans always want to exclude instead of include.

    There is enough to go around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    About 30% of his voters did. Many others just wanted tax cuts, abortion bans, and a skewed Supreme Court.
    Which is all tied to racism.

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