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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    The only thing that matters is how the court views the Bill of Rights, and it is indeed 'negotiable' in that it is not unlimited. Period. When a personal right is outweighed by a public good, that right takes a back seat. Sorry.
    WRONG. INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OUTWEIGH GOVERNMENT POWER.

    THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE CONSTITUTION.

    OUR RIGHTS ARE NOT "GIFTS" FROM THE GOVERNMENT. THE GOVERNMENT WORKS FOR US, NOT VICER VERSA...EXCEPT IN LEFTGOOFYWORLD.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    it is the absolute height of stupidity to believe that the framers would guarantee the right of the government to control our arms after they had just won a war for independence from a government that tried to control their arms
    Wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Wrong.
    you can provide historical documentation to back that up, i'm sure...............we'll wait
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you can provide historical documentation to back that up, i'm sure...............we'll wait
    "well organized militia". Why write meaningless words in an amendment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    "well organized militia". Why write meaningless words in an amendment?
    so you have no historical evidence to corroborate your bullshit. Shall I provide MY historical evidence that proves it's not about government?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so you have no historical evidence to corroborate your bullshit. Shall I provide MY historical evidence that proves it's not about government?
    Insults get you ignored. Bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Insults get you ignored. Bye.
    I accept your concession
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    WHAT A STUPIDFUCK POST. TYPICAL OF YOUR IDIOT ASS....

    KEEP AND "BEAR" GENERALLY MEANS WHAT YOU CAN PICK UP, MORONASAURUS.


    And therefore negotiable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    WRONG. INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OUTWEIGH GOVERNMENT POWER.

    THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE CONSTITUTION.

    OUR RIGHTS ARE NOT "GIFTS" FROM THE GOVERNMENT. THE GOVERNMENT WORKS FOR US, NOT VICER VERSA...EXCEPT IN LEFTGOOFYWORLD.
    Individual rights don’t trump the public welfare. No mention of government on my part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Individual rights don’t trump the public welfare. No mention of government on my part.
    the whole concept of the constitution was to empower government to PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE INDIVIDUAL. You've fallen victim to the despotic nature of government and political parties.......
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    WRONG. INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OUTWEIGH GOVERNMENT POWER.

    THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE CONSTITUTION.

    OUR RIGHTS ARE NOT "GIFTS" FROM THE GOVERNMENT. THE GOVERNMENT WORKS FOR US, NOT VICER VERSA...EXCEPT IN LEFTGOOFYWORLD.
    That was Old America, which was murdered.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    hyperbolic bullshit. come back with facts and logic

    Currently court interpretation of the 1st Amendment allows restrictions on free speech involving threats and slander (among others) and interpretations of free press allows restrictions on libel and pornography.

    If these rights are absolute (Congress shall make NO law) then these cannot be restricted. Those are facts using logic.

    Even your interpretation of constitutional law should be able to follow that logic. If not, then those rights are not absolute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Sorry Joe you demented sod. The 2nd Ammendment is part of the Bill of Rights. What is it you don't understand about "Shall not be infringed"?
    Joe's handlers deem the Constitution superfluous when it suits them, old comrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Currently court interpretation of the 1st Amendment allows restrictions on free speech involving threats and slander (among others) and interpretations of free press allows restrictions on libel and pornography.

    If these rights are absolute (Congress shall make NO law) then these cannot be restricted. Those are facts using logic.

    Even your interpretation of constitutional law should be able to follow that logic. If not, then those rights are not absolute.
    this is more hyperbole. extremist fallacy. the right to free speech is not the right to slander or libel someone. There is a difference that is easily seen when not being argued by the 'no right is absolute' crowd. Don't be a moron like jarod who argues if rights are absolute, then incarcerated prisoners should have guns...........
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Sorry Joe you demented sod.
    The 2nd Ammendment is part of the Bill of Rights.

    What is it you don't understand about "Shall not be infringed"?
    They take the right from prisoners.... Is that not infringement?

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