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MUELLER has made no such claim.Originally Posted by Darth Omar
Having a Department Of Peace, which incorporates the efforts of the State Department, would send an uplifting message. The symbolism alone would be more than worth it. It makes common sense to do that. Besides. What would you have to give up if it were so? Nothing! Are you simply arguing to be contrary?
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Earl (06-08-2019)
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Hello Darth,
If you don't believe it by now you'll simply disregard any supporting evidence, as you have always done.
It should be noted that those who give Trump a free pass on any digression do the same thing.
You are getting what you think makes the country great (it doesn't) so you'll disregard anything which challenges that.
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Earl (06-08-2019)
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I got the same fortune cookie last week(I was hungry again 30 minutes later). Tell me, what do you think are the purposes of the state department and the department of defense? I've heard this "Department of Peace" blather since I was a mini-hippy in the early 70's. If you want to get an idea how it would work, try to break up a fight between two feral cats by trying to physically intervene and yelling, "can't we just talk about it?!"
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Hello Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez,
Funny.
The State Dept handles diplomacy with other nations and the DOD runs the military. Pretty different missions.
Neither focuses specifically on peace, although peace is the hopeful goal of both.
The DOD got a name change a while back. It was previously called the War Department.
The name change had to do with image.
Image would be a good reason to have a Dept Of Peace.
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Earl (06-08-2019)
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I guess it’s the beauty of a message board like this that we can have discussions over an abstract idea like a “Department of Peace”.
Would said department work in connection with other government agencies? Or would it be a check on other gov agencies and their actions?
If folks are sitting in a hippie drum circle high AF I’m sure such an agency sounds like a great idea.
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It really was HOT AF lol.
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Callinectes (06-09-2019), Earl (06-09-2019)
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Hahahahaha. Gotta admit i wasn’t familiar with the term either until four or five months ago.
Darth Omar (06-08-2019)
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Hello cawacko,
I don't think that's what Williamson has in mind.
But I get it.
She's running for the Dem nomination so you can't be objective.
You have no valid objection to her, so you simply mock her.
Hint: A more pointed criticism of her might be to question her foreign affairs knowledge.
Going after her lack of experience holding office is out. She's never held a public office in her life. But then neither had Trump.
Maybe an outsider who isn't a greedy conman, someone who truly wants to unite the nation, bring peace within our own borders, is just what America needs.
Obviously this extreme division and hatred is not working very well for the whole nation, and is bound to fail.
And it is such a waste of resources to anger half the nation, to have so many disgruntled citizens. How can that possibly work?
What do you conservatives do? Just imagine that half the nation is going to roll over and shut up and take it?
Trump policy is like a match in the dynamite shack. You don't lead a nation by alienating half of it.
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Earl (06-09-2019)
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Wow! Is she a family member? You’re taking this awfully personal.
My post wasn’t about her, her running for President or Trump.
Read what I wrote. I responded to the idea of a Department of Peace and Callinectes saying the idea had been around since he was a mini hippie in the ‘70’s.
Edit: And yes, I asked how a Department of Peace would operate or function.
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Earl (06-09-2019)
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Maybe the thing to do is put the question to Williamson.
Maybe she could be a better President than Trump.
We should give her a chance.
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cancel2 2022 (06-10-2019), Earl (06-09-2019)
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Ok, except she’s not here. And she’s not the first person to suggest a department of peace so I don’t believe she’s the only person with “authority” to speak on the topic. And nor did my post have anything to do with the 2020 Presidential race.
The department of peace was brought up. I asked the poster who said it goes back to the ‘70’s what he understands about it.
cancel2 2022 (06-10-2019), Earl (06-09-2019)
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Well that's fine. Sorry to put you on the defensive. Not my intent. I've been trying to nudge this conversation back to looking at Williamson as a candidate. I created this thread to talk about the viability of her candidacy. I heard her speak the other day and I liked what she had to say. It doesn't hurt that she's a hottie. She's got a huge following. She's got charisma. She has already gathered enough support to be included in the first Democratic debates. Oprah is the big name who could easily beat Trump, you know, because America is so dumb they will get excited and vote for somebody just because they like their character on TV and they are tired of insider candidates, so here is another fresh voice that meets those (admittedly and shockingly low) qualifications. And guess what? She has been a counselor to Oprah. And a few other big names.
Here's more of what she says:
"Our deepest political problems are expressed on the level of politics, but they are not rooted there. Our deepest problem is the disengagement of the American heart from the values we purport to hold most dear, and the failure of too many of our citizens to vitally participate in the expression of those values. A disengaged citizenry is to society what a weakened immune system is to the body, and that is the level on which as a country we most need revitalization. What America most needs is a renewal of the spirit of our democracy, in the absence of which the political corruption and human devastation that have become all too common in America will continue to erode our nation. As someone who has had a thirty-five-year career facilitating personal and systems transformation, I believe I have expertise and skill that is most needed at this time."
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cancel2 2022 (06-10-2019), Earl (06-09-2019)
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I’m actually curious about what a department of peace would entail. If I’m “on the defensive” for asking that then so be it.
As far as this woman and Trump she has the challenge of:
1) no name recognition
2) no money
and
3) 20+ other Democratic Presidential candidates in front of her
Why is she better than Bernie Sanders?
Why is she better than Elizabeth Warren?
Why is she better than Kamala Harris?
You have to answer those questions before you can get to her and Trump.
cancel2 2022 (06-10-2019), Earl (06-09-2019)
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Hello cawacko,
Actually, she comes with a sizable following already.
Comes with national recognition
She is an outsider. Really, the man to beat right now is Biden. He is polling the highest by far. Sanders has barely half the support of Biden. If somebody doesn't light the Dems on fire, it looks like it will end up being Biden as the nominee. She is far younger than Biden, and she is an outsider. She also is not on the take from big corporations and/or big money (which is the only reason Biden is doing so well.)
Plenty of time for that.
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cancel2 2022 (06-10-2019)
Note my apathy
On Ms. Williamson's web page, at the upper right-hand corner, there is a big "Donate" button. Who plans to click on it and send her some money?
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