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    Quote Originally Posted by Covfefe View Post
    She, the 14 year old abuse victim was sought out, she told her story to reporters, she did not come forward on her own.
    Why do they remain willfully ignorant of the facts. Don't they understand that they won't learn anything by only watching Hannity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    You think one vote in the senate is more powerful than a judge? Hardly dumbass
    I guess you aren't aware that there is legislation before Congress on a regular basis. Improper rulings from a tainted bench are often overturned.
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    U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison has been poring over election turnout data around the country to find a solution to a maddening problem for Democrats.
    Potentially bedrock Democratic voters in the inner cities sit out off-year, midterm elections in massive numbers. Despite strong turnout when President Obama was on the ballot, Democrats nationally have lost 910 state legislative seats since 2008 and occupy the governor’s mansions in only 18 states.
    Ellison is launching a new voter effort that Democrats around the country have high hopes will lead to more victories in nonpresidential elections, particularly in races where they have lost by razor-thin margins. Even nudging up voter turnout a few percentage points could have massive implications for legislative and statewide races. As a fifth-term Minneapolis Democrat who routinely wins his elections by more than 65 percent, Ellison is increasingly convinced that the future of Democratic victories is hiding in apartment buildings and low-income urban areas across the country.
    “Where are they going to come from? Trust me, there’s 3 percent in every congressional district in the United States,” Ellison said. “If we had a good turnout strategy across the country, you could really turn things around.”
    To do this, Ellison has workers fanning out to apartment buildings and low-income communities to reach potential constituencies in more personal ways. His idea is that through more one-on-one contact, Democrats can drive more people to the polls and cement lifetime allegiances to the party.
    Enter Artiste Mayfield — a part-time employee at an Amazon warehouse and a college student who grew up in north Minneapolis. With streaked red and pink hair and glasses at the end of her nose, she doesn’t look like your typical hardened political operative. Last year, she knocked on more than 200 doors in the neighborhood. This was different from conventional political door-knocking, however. In this case, she knew many of the people behind the doors.




    Mayfield also was part of a “SWAT” team — composed of blacks, Spanish speakers and Oromo speakers — who descended on apartment buildings and knocked on doors together. The idea was that no matter who was behind the door, there would be someone on the team whom he or she could relate to.
    Earlier this month, Mayfield knocked on another 66 doors. Many times, those responding were friends, acquaintances or people she knew from the community — the kind of people Ellison hopes are more receptive to a conversation.
    “Most people say, ‘I don’t vote,’ and then you begin to tell them why it’s important to vote,” Mayfield said.
    Her message is simple: “Do they know about Social Security, about food stamps, about all the things [some politicians] want to take away?” Mayfield asked. “Their eyes be like, ‘For real?’ ”
    Ellison is doing this without the enormous investment of television ads. He also pushed to get the polls open on Sundays and launched a “souls to the polls” effort to bus people to polling places after church. In 2014, some 450 voters showed up in Minneapolis on the two Sundays ahead of the election and another 124 voted on Sunday in Ramsey County.
    National model
    Ellison can point to his own Fifth District in Minneapolis and parts of adjacent suburbs as proof that the system works. His was the only one in the state where turnout numbers grew significantly between 2010 and 2014 — both off-year, midterm elections. More than 13,000 additional voters in the district showed up in 2014 than in 2010 — by far the biggest spike seen across the state.
    The results in Minnesota are gaining the attention of campaign managers nationally heading into 2016.
    Maryland’s Eighth Congressional District is more suburban and more affluent than Minneapolis. It stretches north of the nation’s capital into the well-heeled suburbs of Montgomery County and north into some of the state’s more rural stretches. It is also a reliably Democratic stronghold: There are seven Democrats running for Congress in an open seat next year.
    One of those hopefuls, state Sen. Jamie Raskin, hopes to adopt Ellison’s get-out-the-vote program.
    “It’s an interesting case study in this approach,” said Raskin’s campaign manager, Marshall Cohen. “You have Maryland, a safe blue state in the Senate and presidential races, but just last year elected a Republican governor with record low turnout. I think at the top of people’s minds is that every vote matters and getting more people to participate will be a better outcome for the state of Maryland.”
    Andrew Virden managed the apartment program for Ellison in 2012 and took it statewide in 2014. The crew knocked on doors in about 275 apartment buildings out of about 500 in Minneapolis. Virden said that compared with TV ads, an in-person visit is much more effective in getting people off the couch.
    “By the time it’s October of an election year, every other commercial is a political ad, and that’s the time to go get a sandwich or a glass of lemonade or a cup of coffee,” he said. “You’re not actually paying attention, and if you’re not paying attention, the money is wasted. But you’re not wasting money if it’s a person standing at the front door having a conversation.”


    U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison has been poring over election turnout data around the country to find a solution to a maddening problem for Democrats.
    Potentially bedrock Democratic voters in the inner cities sit out off-year, midterm elections in massive numbers. Despite strong turnout when President Obama was on the ballot, Democrats nationally have lost 910 state legislative seats since 2008 and occupy the governor’s mansions in only 18 states.
    Ellison is launching a new voter effort that Democrats around the country have high hopes will lead to more victories in nonpresidential elections, particularly in races where they have lost by razor-thin margins. Even nudging up voter turnout a few percentage points could have massive implications for legislative and statewide races. As a fifth-term Minneapolis Democrat who routinely wins his elections by more than 65 percent, Ellison is increasingly convinced that the future of Democratic victories is hiding in apartment buildings and low-income urban areas across the country.
    “Where are they going to come from? Trust me, there’s 3 percent in every congressional district in the United States,” Ellison said. “If we had a good turnout strategy across the country, you could really turn things around.”
    To do this, Ellison has workers fanning out to apartment buildings and low-income communities to reach potential constituencies in more personal ways. His idea is that through more one-on-one contact, Democrats can drive more people to the polls and cement lifetime allegiances to the party.
    Enter Artiste Mayfield — a part-time employee at an Amazon warehouse and a college student who grew up in north Minneapolis. With streaked red and pink hair and glasses at the end of her nose, she doesn’t look like your typical hardened political operative. Last year, she knocked on more than 200 doors in the neighborhood. This was different from conventional political door-knocking, however. In this case, she knew many of the people behind the doors.





    Mayfield also was part of a “SWAT” team — composed of blacks, Spanish speakers and Oromo speakers — who descended on apartment buildings and knocked on doors together. The idea was that no matter who was behind the door, there would be someone on the team whom he or she could relate to.
    Earlier this month, Mayfield knocked on another 66 doors. Many times, those responding were friends, acquaintances or people she knew from the community — the kind of people Ellison hopes are more receptive to a conversation.
    “Most people say, ‘I don’t vote,’ and then you begin to tell them why it’s important to vote,” Mayfield said.
    Her message is simple: “Do they know about Social Security, about food stamps, about all the things [some politicians] want to take away?” Mayfield asked. “Their eyes be like, ‘For real?’ ”
    Ellison is doing this without the enormous investment of television ads. He also pushed to get the polls open on Sundays and launched a “souls to the polls” effort to bus people to polling places after church. In 2014, some 450 voters showed up in Minneapolis on the two Sundays ahead of the election and another 124 voted on Sunday in Ramsey County.
    National model
    Ellison can point to his own Fifth District in Minneapolis and parts of adjacent suburbs as proof that the system works. His was the only one in the state where turnout numbers grew significantly between 2010 and 2014 — both off-year, midterm elections. More than 13,000 additional voters in the district showed up in 2014 than in 2010 — by far the biggest spike seen across the state.
    The results in Minnesota are gaining the attention of campaign managers nationally heading into 2016.
    Maryland’s Eighth Congressional District is more suburban and more affluent than Minneapolis. It stretches north of the nation’s capital into the well-heeled suburbs of Montgomery County and north into some of the state’s more rural stretches. It is also a reliably Democratic stronghold: There are seven Democrats running for Congress in an open seat next year.
    One of those hopefuls, state Sen. Jamie Raskin, hopes to adopt Ellison’s get-out-the-vote program.
    “It’s an interesting case study in this approach,” said Raskin’s campaign manager, Marshall Cohen. “You have Maryland, a safe blue state in the Senate and presidential races, but just last year elected a Republican governor with record low turnout. I think at the top of people’s minds is that every vote matters and getting more people to participate will be a better outcome for the state of Maryland.”
    Andrew Virden managed the apartment program for Ellison in 2012 and took it statewide in 2014. The crew knocked on doors in about 275 apartment buildings out of about 500 in Minneapolis. Virden said that compared with TV ads, an in-person visit is much more effective in getting people off the couch.
    “By the time it’s October of an election year, every other commercial is a political ad, and that’s the time to go get a sandwich or a glass of lemonade or a cup of coffee,” he said. “You’re not actually paying attention, and if you’re not paying attention, the money is wasted. But you’re not wasting money if it’s a person standing at the front door having a conversation.”

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    Not sure what this has to do with roy moore calling for him not to be in the senate because he's a Muslim.

    Not sure if anyone else would be able to run for office displaying that kind of hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Moore is representative of many (most) Evangelicals. People who claim to believe the literal word of the Bible, but are rotten to the core. Just look at Jerry Falwell, who pulled the Evangelicals over to the Republican party in the 1970s. These people are fucking rotten -- and use religion to conceal their inner hateful nature. I have never seen a respectable Evangelical who engaged in politics.

    So to answer your question, yes, Alabama Evangelicals will absolutely support Moore. In fact, they would support him more if he was guilty.

    Funny how you are so willing to label all Evangelicals for the actions of a couple but are loath to do so for muslimes. Why is that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    oh really


    so you think 40 years ago a 16 year old poor kid could have jsut gone to the police and it would have turnec out great?


    how old are you ?


    he was a district attorney who knew all of the police in the area.


    you are an idiot
    Do you are saying gunmint is corrupt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Why do they remain willfully ignorant of the facts. Don't they understand that they won't learn anything by only watching Hannity?
    No, they choose to be willfully ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Where are all of these outraged folks condemning George H W Bush? Guess he is close to assuming room temp and not running for Senate so he gets a pass?
    I agree. They have selective outrage. Plus, 41 is a rino, he's part of "their" crowd at heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
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    Not sure what this has to do with roy moore calling for him not to be in the senate because he's a Muslim.

    Not sure if anyone else would be able to run for office displaying that kind of hate.
    You asked about white support. Ellison wins overwhelmingly in his state. I don't think Minnesota has the same percentage of black voters as Alabama.

    I understand you didn't read it, but it shows that Ellison understands that the answers lie in getting into the low income neighborhoods that typically have little interest in voting for people that they feel don't represent them.

    I don't think Ellison is blaming black people for anything.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covfefe View Post
    The fact that she thinks people get on with their lives is a ridiculous and callous notion, some victims commit suicide, others have relationship and trust issues, some do forget and move on, but the majority bear the scars for the rest of their lives because there generally is no justice for the victims. If the opportunity to tell your story and be believed appears, you take it, no matter the time that has passed.
    But, she DID get on with her life............so why this relapse after 40 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    But, she DID get on with her life............so why this relapse after 40 years?
    Which one, the 14 year old or the 16 year old waitress, the 16 year old gave her reasons, the 14 year old prayed on it, maybe her answer was to expose him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Yep. To put a finer point on it, some move on, but nobody ever 'forgets'. They might be happily married 40 years later, and then the rapist is all over the t.v after winning a primary. Suddenly, it all comes back, and your husband has no idea why you aren't looking well lately.

    Every victim has scars. Some actually do become sexually deviant, believing that they aren't worthy of a real relationship. Some self medicate, and end up in legal trouble that would never have happened otherwise.

    And a lot of this happens because they don't have the strength, or the bravery to endure the comments we're seeing here by those who support the rapist solely because he isn't a Democrat.
    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roy Moore was a DEMOCRAT when all this allegedly happened! So I guess all your good ol' boy democrat heroes back then were still in the business of covering for their brethren. Maybe his idol was Bubba Clinton...birds of a feather.

    And, I don't remember anybody here so worried about the abusive lifelong ways of Bubba the democrat, and him causing women to be suicidal. Hypocrites. Bubba's the one who got away with everything. When Hillary said that "alllllll women deserve to be believed" she didn't mean Bubba's harem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    What good is going to the cops, they couldn't have done anything- statute of limitations.
    Thank-you. That confirms what they really want here and now then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Thank-you. That confirms what they really want here and now then.
    They want Roy Moore exposed for the man he is, they do not feel men like Moore should serve in the Senate. One woman was very honest in her statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    oh really


    so you think 40 years ago a 16 year old poor kid could have jsut gone to the police and it would have turnec out great?


    how old are you ?


    he was a district attorney who knew all of the police in the area.


    you are an idiot
    Yeah, I could have done that 48 years ago, but I didn't. I dealt with it and let it go. I'm 65 and have lived more years than I'm going to live. No time to waste reliving the past or harboring unforgiveness and bitterness toward anyone in the past.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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