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    Hello Cypress,

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    It is revealing that no conservative even attempts to defend Trump or articulate a plausible vision for Republican governance.

    Their entire party platform comes down to this:

    "Sure Trump totally sucks, but Demoncrats are even worse!"
    And it works on the cult.

    They totally have some very good actors to sell the fear.

    Not sure how much distance there is between Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh. It's a short trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    That's how voting for the "Lesser of Two Evils" works. If more people voted their conscience, I think we'd be better off. Not just in the election, but in each party.
    It is partly human nature. People are not inspired by wonky policy prescriptions and nuance. They can be easily swayed by demagogues and fear mongering.

    Hope can sell too, but it takes a particularly charismatic candidate, aka Kennedy 1960, Obama 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Cypress,
    And it works on the cult.

    They totally have some very good actors to sell the fear.

    Not sure how much distance there is between Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh. It's a short trip.
    Yes, it works on the cult, but Trump wasn't elected by a cult. In fact, his election pissed off a cult.

    When both major parties fail to represent the majority of Americans, what is your recommendation for how they should vote in a general election?

    My strategy is to vote against the incumbent regardless of party. The only way to weaken powerful political parties is to always vote them out of power until one or both come up with a strategy that represents all Americans and the best interests of the nation.
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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Exactly. Look at all the ABT, Anyone But Trump, folks who say they would vote for a dog catcher for President over Trump. Hardly a ringing endorsement of Joe Biden and Democratic governing principles. It's simply voting against Trump. (people can vote for whomever they want and for whatever reason but don't sit here and proclaim you (not you personally) are so different than everyone else)
    No way Biden was MY first choice. Very rarely have I actually favored a major candidate. The only time was when I campaigned for Obama. I wanted Bernie, but only if almost everyone else did, too. Bernie would have been a powerless lame duck if he just barely won. A president without a party to back him up in Congress. None of his stuff he campaigned on would happen. That's no good. And plus, that would set the Republicans up for a strong campaign after one term of nothing happening. I'm GLAD we've got Biden. I support Biden. I endorse Joe Biden for President. But he is not my original preference.

    You're correct. I am voting AGAINST Trump. You got that right.

    In the blink of an eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It is partly human nature. People are not inspired by wonky policy prescriptions and nuance. They can be easily swayed by demagogues and fear mongering.

    Hope can sell too, but it takes a particularly charismatic candidate, aka Kennedy 1960, Obama 2008.
    Agreed on human nature, disagreed on underestimating people in general. Even retards figure out they are being ridiculed and abused. This is why both Congress and both political parties don't fair well in favorability polls.

    Agreed that hope is persuasive, but anyone failing to follow through with that hope will be seen as a low life liar.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics...mance-ratings/


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/24655/party-images.aspx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    They've had the job, they just haven't done it properly. You know, like Trump.
    So not a real job in over 30 years. Made a living ducking on the public teet. Fuck them

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,



    No way Biden was MY first choice. Very rarely have I actually favored a major candidate. The only time was when I campaigned for Obama. I wanted Bernie, but only if almost everyone else did, too. Bernie would have been a powerless lame duck if he just barely won. A president without a party to back him up in Congress. None of his stuff he campaigned on would happen. That's no good. And plus, that would set the Republicans up for a strong campaign after one term of nothing happening. I'm GLAD we've got Biden. I support Biden. I endorse Joe Biden for President. But he is not my original preference.

    You're correct. I am voting AGAINST Trump. You got that right.

    In the blink of an eye.

    Easy decision.
    You can vote for whomever you like for whatever reason. At the end of the day you don't have to justify it to anyone. But it's rather blatantly contradictory to thank a post calling out people voting for Trump because he's not a Democrat and then turn around and say your support for Biden is predicated on voting against Trump.

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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    You can vote for whomever you like for whatever reason. At the end of the day you don't have to justify it to anyone. But it's rather blatantly contradictory to thank a post calling out people voting for Trump because he's not a Democrat and then turn around and say your support for Biden is predicated on voting against Trump.
    Not exactly.

    My motivation against Trump is based on his record.

    Biden is not currently holding an office. He doesn't have to defend how he handled the current crisis. He didn't downplay a deadly virus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    We do need an amendment to fix the Court at nine justices.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    What do you suppose would happen if Kamala Harris gets to appoint six illiberal justices to the Court?
    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    She won't. As it stands, she won't outlive a few of the ones already there.
    And if she was elected (slim chance) president, or even takes over for Biden,
    she won't get the chance to nominate more than one or two at most.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    Can you please learn to read?
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    My reading comprehension is fine. I answered your question. Again, she won't get that chance. Period.
    Sure you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,



    Not exactly.

    My motivation against Trump is based on his record.

    Biden is not currently holding an office. He doesn't have to defend how he handled the current crisis. He didn't downplay a deadly virus.
    Pretty hard to argue a person in the Senate for some 40 years and VP for 8 doesn't have a record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    Sure you can.
    So you pick parts of a "conversation" and for what? What's your point?

    You said you thought picking 9 Supreme Court Judges was more important than
    my suggested fixing the 14th. Amendment. We disagree. Doesn't mean I can't read.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    So you pick parts of a "conversation" and for what? What's your point?

    You said you thought picking 9 Supreme Court Judges was more important than
    my suggested fixing the 14th. Amendment. We disagree. Doesn't mean I can't read.
    How many justices are currently on the Court?

    Also, I didn't say anyone would pick nine justices, so, you really cannot read

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Pretty hard to argue a person in the Senate for some 40 years and VP for 8 doesn't have a record.
    Just about all of those with 48 years of experience are either retired or dead. I doubt any of those left would come out of retirement and apply for the hardest job in the world.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    How many justices are currently on the Court?

    Also, I didn't say anyone would pick nine justices, so, you really cannot read
    Ok. I can't read. Now kindly fuck off.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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