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    So what is the reason behind executive orders? Were they designed for the President to write new legislation? I thought only Congress had the power to write legislation? Isn't Congress ceding power to the President if they do nothing?

    And what of the day when there is a Republican President and attempts to use executive orders to do something the democrats don't support? Do they have much standing to complain? Forget about the policies goals for a second, think about the rule of law and the US Constitution for a second.

    Obama has ZERO authority to do what he claims he wants to do. ZERO.

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    Yeah, because Bush never used them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    He is right about wondering but this moron clearly never educated himself on Executive Order beyond Fox News.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obama Hates America View Post
    So what is the reason behind executive orders? Were they designed for the President to write new legislation? I thought only Congress had the power to write legislation? Isn't Congress ceding power to the President if they do nothing?

    And what of the day when there is a Republican President and attempts to use executive orders to do something the democrats don't support? Do they have much standing to complain? Forget about the policies goals for a second, think about the rule of law and the US Constitution for a second.

    Obama has ZERO authority to do what he claims he wants to do. ZERO.
    EO as a statement of policy is fine. I did not hear of anything he does not have the power to act on. Do you have an example?

    What of the day? Bush used EOs frequently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obama Hates America View Post
    So what is the reason behind executive orders? Were they designed for the President to write new legislation? I thought only Congress had the power to write legislation? Isn't Congress ceding power to the President if they do nothing?

    And what of the day when there is a Republican President and attempts to use executive orders to do something the democrats don't support? Do they have much standing to complain? Forget about the policies goals for a second, think about the rule of law and the US Constitution for a second.

    Obama has ZERO authority to do what he claims he wants to do. ZERO.
    Your Avatar reminds me of his Supreme Excellency, Uganda's President for Life, Idi Amin Dodo(Dada). I would expect Obama to try to connive his way into a third term. Maybe, he will issue an Executive Order allowing it through Nationwide Petitions? The Lib Demos are good at getting out the vote/signatures to get enough so that he can claim that the public demands that he runs again for President. When it comes to conniving, the Lib Demos are way ahead of the Republicans, it's a no contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    So what is the reason behind executive orders? Were they designed for the President to write new legislation? I thought only Congress had the power to write legislation? Isn't Congress ceding power to the President if they do nothing?

    And what of the day when there is a Republican President and attempts to use executive orders to do something the democrats don't support? Do they have much standing to complain? Forget about the policies goals for a second, think about the rule of law and the US Constitution for a second.

    Obama has ZERO authority to do what he claims he wants to do. ZERO.

    Hypocrisy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Hypocrisy!
    I am flattered that you went to the trouble of digging up my post. It would have been more helpful if you had provided the link to the thread in which I was posting so that we can gain context

    However in general I oppose Executive Orders as a rule.

    But now I am left with a conundrum. Do I allow Obamas illegal executive orders to stand? Or look the other way while Trump does it?

    I will take the hypocrite label. There is too much at stake to be ideologically pure.

    Why should I be principled when it is clear your side is not. I don't accept those rules of engagement

    I do recognize that this style of governing on both sides is setting us on a dangerous path

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Hypocrisy!
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    Its very easy, I have a very good memory and the search function is userfriendly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Hypocrisy!
    So you decide its hypocrisy without even asking if he approves of Trump doing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    So you decide its hypocrisy without even asking if he approves of Trump doing it?
    He has been cheering Trumps actions. Are you asleep, or simply not reading other threads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Its very easy, I have a very good memory and the search function is userfriendly.
    And the thread in which I posted that so people can get context or is context not relevant to you. It's ok if it isn't. It just speaks to your honesty

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    And the thread in which I posted that so people can get context or is context not relevant to you. It's ok if it isn't. It just speaks to your honesty
    You have not denied supporting Trumps executive orders so I don't feel a need to prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post

    But now I am left with a conundrum. Do I allow Obamas illegal executive orders to stand? Or look the other way while Trump does it?

    I will take the hypocrite label. There is too much at stake to be ideologically pure.

    Why should I be principled when it is clear your side is not. I don't accept those rules of engagement
    Here is my cite showing that you support what Trump is doing, while admitting that it results in you attaining the label of "hypocrite".
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