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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post

    ......plus Norway and Sweden are FULL of the white people Trump adores!......everybody wins!
    Norway and Sweden being FULL of whites explains a lot. Interesting that those of you that constantly use places like that as something we should be like ignore that factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Hollow, impotent threats from a hollow, impotent person.

    You aren't rounding up shit, and once Trump is gone, you will try and pretend you never supported him so you can avoid being lumped in with the broader failures of Conservatism, Trumpism, and Republicanism.

    Just like you did after Bush the Dumber, when you stapled teabags to your faces.
    You've been provided detailed directions and still refuse to show up, pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    Social Democracies don't embrace capitalism?

    did you know socialism and capitalism are not the same systems, and invariably work in concert?

    home schooled much?
    The success in Norway and Sweden is based on capitalism. Socialism hasn't caused their success. Add to that they, as you say, are FULL of whites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Socialism only has one definition. No matter how much the left tries to spin that.
    Not true, as I've pointed out before, the US has been partially socialist since the 19th Century, so with that fact and your understanding, does that mean we are a socialist nation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
    It crushed everyone's liberties while also tanking the economy.
    How?


    Quote Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
    And while all of the leftists try to make excuses for the the crumbled Venezuelan economy (i.e. everyone is at fault except the socialists), you can't explain away the tyranny of the socialist government. That is entirely on socialists and their ideology. They weren't brided by liberals or mind-controlled by the Jews.
    Venezuela's economy crumbled for the same reason Texas' did a few years ago; both are petro-states that rely on revenues from fossil fuels to pad their budgets in lieu of taxation. So naturally, when the price of oil drops, the amount of revenues flowing into the Treasury of each petro-state drops as well. That causes budget crunches which result in cutting of services, which result in economic downturns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Not true, as I've pointed out before, the US has been partially socialist since the 19th Century, so with that fact and your understanding, does that mean we are a socialist nation?
    It’s not a fact. Providing electricity, defense etc. is not a socialist economic unit. It’s similar to public utilities that provide services that the individual can not provide for him/herself. It’s paid for by taxpayers.

    “This country will never be a socialist nation.” President Trump.

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    The economy of Venezuela failed because of SOCIALISM. The control of their goods and services ( Socialism) by Maduro led to their citizens’ starvation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    How?




    Venezuela's economy crumbled for the same reason Texas' did a few years ago; both are petro-states that rely on revenues from fossil fuels to pad their budgets in lieu of taxation. So naturally, when the price of oil drops, the amount of revenues flowing into the Treasury of each petro-state drops as well. That causes budget crunches which result in cutting of services, which result in economic downturns.
    You do realize that Venezuelans do not presently have the right to disagree with the Maduro regime, right?

    Venezuela did not experience an economic downturn. It collapsed entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Not true, as I've pointed out before, the US has been partially socialist since the 19th Century, so with that fact and your understanding, does that mean we are a socialist nation?
    Keep in mind, it's Sailor.

    A FAS baby and mentally retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
    You do realize that Venezuelans do not presently have the right to disagree with the Maduro regime, right?
    Which has nothing to do with the failure of capitalism in the oil markets.

    Everything you're screeching about has nothing to do with why and how Venezuela got to where they are today.

    Your free market, capitalist ideology that is centered around the fetishizing of fossil fuels, is 100% responsible for what is happening there.

    Your primitive solutions are to drill more, thus further devaluing the price of oil, causing the nation to fall even farther behind.

    You're simply too immature to grasp this subject.


    Venezuela did not experience an economic downturn. It collapsed entirely.
    Why? Because the price per barrel of oil dropped, and Venezuela relied on revenues from fossil fuels to fund its budget.

    Now, who are the people in this country who want us to drill more? Who was it who said "drill baby drill"? Well, now that you know what happens when you increase oil production, are you now second-guessing those long-held beliefs? Or are you doubling down on how stupid they are?

    Think carefully before you respond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Which has nothing to do with the failure of capitalism in the oil markets.

    Everything you're screeching about has nothing to do with why and how Venezuela got to where they are today.

    Your free market, capitalist ideology that is centered around the fetishizing of fossil fuels, is 100% responsible for what is happening there.

    Your primitive solutions are to drill more, thus further devaluing the price of oil, causing the nation to fall even farther behind.

    You're simply too immature to grasp this subject.




    Why? Because the price per barrel of oil dropped, and Venezuela relied on revenues from fossil fuels to fund its budget.

    Now, who are the people in this country who want us to drill more? Who was it who said "drill baby drill"? Well, now that you know what happens when you increase oil production, are you now second-guessing those long-held beliefs? Or are you doubling down on how stupid they are?

    Think carefully before you respond.
    The greatest failure of any system—socialist, Marxist, fascist, etc—is when it crushes liberty. Not when it mismanages its affairs and responsibilities.

    Liberalism is not responsible for the failure of your demented and vile socialism. Only socialism is responsible for what socialism does, and how it fails. The inability of socialists to comprehend markets and to adjust to changing realties of the world around them will always catch-up to them in the worst ways. Still, the economic failures of socialism are a secondary consideration to its general illiberalism.

    The answer to your question is people with a fucking brain. You could never hope to understand the matter of supply, because socialists do not comprehend markets.
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    Socialism failed its citizens in Venezuela. It failed to provide sufficient food.

    “Just 25 percent of registered voters hold a positive view of Socialism, including 50 percent of self-described liberals, while nearly 60 percent hold a negative view. On capitalism, the numbers are nearly exactly reversed: 57 percent favorable, and 28 percent unfavorable. As for the overall role of government, this should be welcomed as a healthy sign by conservatives:”


    Fox poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    Social Democracies don't embrace capitalism?

    did you know socialism and capitalism are not the same systems, and invariably work in concert?

    home schooled much?
    You are still dumb as fuck. And still have no idea what socialism is, nor what you are supporting. Kill yourself. Now would be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Not true, as I've pointed out before, the US has been partially socialist since the 19th Century, so with that fact and your understanding, does that mean we are a socialist nation?
    What part of our country is socialist? Try and be specific. I will straighten you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard the Duck View Post
    Liberalism is not responsible for the failure of your demented and vile socialis
    Socialism hasn't "failed".

    What failed in Venezuela is the concept of petro-dollars and basing your economy on fossil fuels, knowing that you ultimately have little control over the global price.

    If oil prices had remained high, there wouldn't be any problems there.

    But oil prices didn't remain high.
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