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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Sure ya were, cupcake.

    What size drives are you talking about?
    Back then it was probably a 10gb drive.

    Before Linux came along, Norton utilities included a handy little hex editor that allowed for read/write direct to disk. It came in handy more than once to get info from a dying disk. Those were disks that were probably smaller than 1gb. A hard drive that can hold the data of over 300 floppy drives seems plenty big.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Back then it was probably a 10gb drive.

    Before Linux came along, Norton utilities included a handy little hex editor that allowed for read/write direct to disk. It came in handy more than once to get info from a dying disk. Those were disks that were probably smaller than 1gb. A hard drive that can hold the data of over 300 floppy drives seems plenty big.
    Ah! Busted in a lie, bitch! There were no 10GB drives in those days.

    1.44 X 300 = How many Mb?

    432 Mb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Oh. You must be so smart being able to image a hard drive with software someone gave you. I was "dd"ing drives while you were still a script kiddie.
    I'm smart enough to get an OS to where I want it and make a copy. And then make regular backups, boy.

    Cloud my ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Back then it was probably a 10gb drive.

    Before Linux came along, Norton utilities included a handy little hex editor that allowed for read/write direct to disk. It came in handy more than once to get info from a dying disk. Those were disks that were probably smaller than 1gb. A hard drive that can hold the data of over 300 floppy drives seems plenty big.
    Linux was around since about 1997.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Ah! Busted in a lie, bitch! There were no 10GB drives in those days.

    1.44 X 300 = How many Mb?

    432 Mb.
    You might want to learn how paragraphs work. There were 2 time periods I was referencing.


    No 10gb drives in 1999? Are you sure? You might want to rethink that. 1999 is about the time when you were a script kiddie. Linux was also very available at that time.

    About 1995 is when I used Norton Utilities hex editor. There were no affordable 10gb drives in 1995. In 1995 ATA drives would have been about 500mb. I think you already did the math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    I'm smart enough to get an OS to where I want it and make a copy. And then make regular backups, boy.

    Cloud my ass.
    Good for you. You and about 30 million other people. When did your technet subscription expire?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Good for you. You and about 30 million other people. When did your technet subscription expire?
    wtf is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    You might want to learn how paragraphs work. There were 2 time periods I was referencing.


    No 10gb drives in 1999? Are you sure? You might want to rethink that. 1999 is about the time when you were a script kiddie. Linux was also very available at that time.

    About 1995 is when I used Norton Utilities hex editor. There were no affordable 10gb drives in 1995. In 1995 ATA drives would have been about 500mb. I think you already did the math.
    Back then a 10GB drive would have been several if not over 10 thousand dollars.

    You said "back then", guy.

    A typical hard drive back then was 250MB or less.

    I used all kinds of hex editors, what's your point? I learned VB 3-6.

    I know old computer languages, and stuff was getting new real fast then. C+ was coming.

    I learned HTML, some javascript.

    What brand was this alleged 1999 10GB hard drive?

    Was it SATA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Back then a 10GB drive would have been several if not over 10 thousand dollars.

    You said "back then", guy.
    Dick cannot google that quickly......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Dick cannot google that quickly......
    I had a bigger drive than most, and it was less than 1GB.

    128-256k RAM was the max.

    People were stepping up from 28K modems to 56K ones..or even dual 56K ones, if fancy.

    I had neither. But I did have a modem.

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    You won't get a 10gb drive today for less than $400 I bet.

    That's big!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Back then a 10GB drive would have been several if not over 10 thousand dollars.

    You said "back then", guy.

    A typical hard drive back then was 250MB or less.

    I used all kinds of hex editors, what's your point? I learned VB 3-6.

    I know old computer languages, and stuff was getting new real fast then. C+ was coming.

    I learned HTML, some javascript.

    What brand was this alleged 1999 10GB hard drive?
    http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9901/21/honkin.idg/

    Maxtor, Seagate, Western Digital. Lots of companies made them.
    https://www.redhill.net.au/d/d-99.html
    Lots of local computer manufactures during that time that sold them for probably about $2-300

    One of the worst Macs ever made had, the imac, 10gb drives in them in 2000.

    My point would be I have been doing this a lot longer than you have and it seems my memory might be better than yours.

    Edit to respond to your edited in question about SATA.
    Of course it wasn't SATA. ATA and SCSI were pretty much the choices back then. Mac was pretty much all SCSI. Nothing like those grey ribbon cables and having to set the master/slave jumpers.
    Do you know what a Jazz drive is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9901/21/honkin.idg/

    Maxtor, Seagate, Western Digital. Lots of companies made them.
    https://www.redhill.net.au/d/d-99.html
    Lots of local computer manufactures during that time that sold them for probably about $2-300

    One of the worst Macs ever made had, the imac, 10gb drives in them in 2000.

    My point would be I have been doing this a lot longer than you have and it seems my memory might be better than yours.


    PS: I knew that was the site you'd reference.

    Nobody had big drives like that back then. The one I had was bigger than what 99% of people were using.

    I was quitting when you were just starting, cupcake.

    Around 2000 I got a girlfriend and moved out, did not take computer.

    I know what it was, though. It's still around somewhere, virii and all

    I know where it is, it's not here.

    I still have my 1st computer. It's here.

    What comp did you use "back then"? Hmm?

    You strike me as a MacFag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9901/21/honkin.idg/

    Maxtor, Seagate, Western Digital. Lots of companies made them.
    https://www.redhill.net.au/d/d-99.html
    Lots of local computer manufactures during that time that sold them for probably about $2-300

    One of the worst Macs ever made had, the imac, 10gb drives in them in 2000.

    My point would be I have been doing this a lot longer than you have and it seems my memory might be better than yours.

    Edit to respond to your edited in question about SATA.
    Of course it wasn't SATA. ATA and SCSI were pretty much the choices back then. Mac was pretty much all SCSI. Nothing like those grey ribbon cables and having to set the master/slave jumpers.
    Do you know what a Jazz drive is?
    Nope, but you're a MacFag, huh?
    Do you know what a cake platter is? That's what hard drives used to be.

    Also..PCs were IDE, derp! You even mentioned the ribbon cable and slave/master jumper settings.

    So..are you a MacFag or what? You know, back then you could run whatever in the socket of the motherboard. Unless Apple gimped it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post


    PS: I knew that was the site you'd reference.

    Nobody had big drives like that back then. The one I had was bigger than what 99% of people were using.

    I was quitting when you were just starting, cupcake.

    Around 2000 I got a girlfriend and moved out, did not take computer.

    I know what it was, though. It's still around somewhere, virii and all

    I know where it is, it's not here.

    I still have my 1st computer. It's here.

    What comp did you use "back then"? Hmm?

    You strike me as a MacFag.
    Actually, a lot of us did have such big drives back then. Some of us were actually working in a field that used computers.

    If you don't believe me what they cost, you can check this site which confirms my memory. A 10gb drive for under $200 in December of 1999.
    https://mkomo.com/cost-per-gigabyte

    My first computer was an Apple II, followed by a IIc and then a Lisa. I was also using an 80286 then as well at work. I don't have any of them anymore. It's not like I need more than 6 or 7 computers sitting on a shelf not being used.
    I bought a custom built 386 for $2000 probably in about 1989. From there I moved to a 486. I don't recall if I ever personally owned a 586 or not.

    In 1999, I would have been working with Linux, Mac and Windows. Computers are tools. The best graphic machine in 1999 was a Mac. My home machine was probably the K-6 machine I built myself and had dual boot.
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