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    Hello Frank,

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    The American right MAY eventually works its way back and become the "reasonable, compassionate" group you hope for, Poli...

    ...but it will require a GREAT DEAL MORE than just standing up to Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump is a reflection of what the American right has become. He is NOT an aberration.
    Trump was going bankrupt with the Taj Mahal. He paid too much, built it too big and could never generate enough revenue to cover his debts. Banks would no longer loan to him.

    He needed a huge cash injection.

    So he went public!

    He sold stock in his name.

    People could invest in Donald Trump. They bought DJT stock!

    He got millions. Kept him going for a while.

    Why the public would invest in somebody who was going bankrupt and the banks would not touch him is a testament to his false propaganda narrative. He kept getting himself in the news, and every time, he looked like he had lots of money, like everything he touched turned to gold.

    It all worked for a while but eventually people lost confidence in his stock. The word was finally out that he was a scammer. The stock price fell until it was worthless paper. Trump got away with all the money.

    Trump got away with it by fooling most of the people some of the time.

    Now his new shtick is to fool people into being afraid of illegal immigration. He is making it work for a while, but he knows it won't work forever. He's just milking it for all he can for as long as it lasts.

    Trump knows people will wise up about him sooner or later.
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    I guess we all know the border is empty. The Mexican rapists and murderers have driven everyone away. Now there are only tumbleweeds and cacti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Controlled Opposition,



    I never attempted to establish that anybody is immune to propaganda. We can certainly see that by looking at how well President Trump's lies work on the uneducated.

    All that Left-leaning posters have to do is locate and state facts. Right-leaning posters have to be far more creative because facts are not frequently in their favor. Many times, the right is reduced to 'alternate facts,' with common conspiracy theories such as claiming the main stream news media is part and parcel of a Democratic party 'deep state.' This circular reasoning relies on giving examples of things denied by right-leaning posters, then claiming this 'proves' the existence of a 'liberal media.'
    No. Everything you wrote applies equally, if not more, to the left. For example; the Russia hoax. You may reply with more leftist propaganda as you see fit.

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    What is the Russia hoax, if not fear-based politics?

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    "We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo (Walt Kelly)

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    Hello Controlled Opposition,

    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    No. Everything you wrote applies equally, if not more, to the left. For example; the Russia hoax. You may reply with more leftist propaganda as you see fit.
    Hoax?

    What makes you think it's a hoax? You seem to know an unknown. The Mueller investigation is ongoing. Calling it a hoax IS propaganda. It's false information, misinformation.

    And there we have it.

    The right-leaning poster is clinging to an 'alternative fact,' (a non-fact,) and the left-leaning poster merely needs to state the fact.

    Your argument has been debunked.

    Your non-fact is incorrectly calling an unknown a hoax.

    My fact is correctly stating that it is an unknown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    The very idea that the "left" is immune to propaganda is absurd. Anyone who believes otherwise is, well, propagandized.
    Where. nowadays, is the big money to pay for this propaganda? The current 'left' is what used to be the centre, if that: capitalism doesn't pay for its own destruction, let's face it.

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    Hello Controlled Opposition,

    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    What is the Russia hoax, if not fear-based politics?
    There is no such thing as 'the Russia hoax.'

    That's your 'alternative fact.'

    That's propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Pro America. That is why leftys don't like Trump. He is a childish name calling corrupt person who should not have won. His corruption will be exposed and he will flee pardoning everyone he can. The Repubs could have done better by picking any other Repub in the debates. His people started stealing on the inauguration ceremony and has been feeding at the troth ever since. Trump has put lobbyists in charge of agencies He has put corporate chiefs in charge of the agencies that used to regulate them so they could cripple them. You voted for it.
    All that ..... And this Country has never been better off !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasquezrocks View Post
    All that ..... And this Country has never been better off !
    That pathetic honk demonstrates all that is wrong with America. Never mind - soon be dead!

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    Hello Vasquezrocks,

    Quote Originally Posted by Vasquezrocks View Post
    All that ..... And this Country has never been better off !
    I fail to see how fear based politics has made the USA any better off than mutually respectful constructive criticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    The very idea that the "left" is immune to propaganda is absurd. Anyone who believes otherwise is, well, propagandized.
    Left is far more moral. Look at Franken, accused of doing hover hands over a woman. He was a comedian. But the left acted swiftly. He is gone. Virginian politicians are getting booted for things they did 30 years ago or more that were immature and stupid. The Lt Giv is likely a goner for an accusation, unproven and not judged. Kavanaugh , a righty, got on the Supremes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Left is far more moral. Look at Franken, accused of doing hover hands over a woman. He was a comedian. But the left acted swiftly. He is gone. Virginian politicians are getting booted for things they did 30 years ago or more that were immature and stupid. The Lt Giv is likely a goner for an accusation, unproven and not judged. Kavanaugh , a righty, got on the Supremes.
    Yeah, the right gets to keep their president who gropes women's crotches and pays off porn stars he's nailed not to mess up their elections, and the SCOTUS is a drunken rapist, but the left has a Senator who hams it up with a pretend chest fondle and he's out of a job.

    Some double standard.
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    Fox News = fear based politics.

    Your daily dose of what to be afraid of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello 10DayUserName,



    And you know Russia is far larger than the USA, has many more resources and people. But Russia has not prospered like the USA because it is controlled by bullies.

    We have to have a political system which is not dominated by bullies.
    You are right Democrats only wish they had all the power to pull it off!

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