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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/04/trum...ion-probe.html

    In a week it's gone from not a chance to probable, if Garland has the spine for it. He's shown us he has.
    Why did Garland look so scared shitless when he gave that statement the other day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    “... or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or...”


    This has not been proven, Pobre.
    I never said it had been proven. I only said that a crime can be committed even if the documents are not classified.

    Your argument seems to be that Trump could have "declassified" the sailing plans for every US Navy ship and then shared them with the Russians after leaving office and would not be guilty of a crime.
    "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Only in your mind, only in your make believe, only in your never ending bullshit, were these documents declassified.
    The former POTUS in possession of them had the FULL POWER TO DE-CLASSIFY THEM WHEN HE WAS POTUS.

    HE SAYS HE DE-CLASSIFIED THEM.


    SORRY ABOUT YOUR BEING UNINFORMED...AGAIN.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    THEY WERE AFTER "CROSSFIRE HURRICANE/RUSSIA LIE" EVIDENCE...FOR OBVIOUS REASONS..ALL ILLEGAL.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    ROFLMAO.. so the judge has to interpret the law every time a case comes before him? OMG. It would seem a simple understanding of the English language would mean you don't have to interpret something over and over and over and over and over.
    You're arguing with a human robot, not a particularly good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Why did Garland look so scared shitless when he gave that statement the other day?
    Why do you guys see strictly what you want to see? There is someone in this unfolding drama who has reason to be scared shitless, but it isn't Garland.
    "Give pearls away and rubies but keep your fancy free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    Why do you guys see strictly what you want to see? There is someone in this unfolding drama who has reason to be scared shitless, but it isn't Garland.
    matt dillon is a moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    The former POTUS in possession of them had the FULL POWER TO DE-CLASSIFY THEM WHEN HE WAS POTUS.

    HE SAYS HE DE-CLASSIFIED THEM.


    SORRY ABOUT YOUR BEING UNINFORMED...AGAIN.
    Trump lies about everything. If he said they were declassified, you can bet the bank they weren't. Especially the top secret items, which he alone could not declassify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    The former POTUS in possession of them had the FULL POWER TO DE-CLASSIFY THEM WHEN HE WAS POTUS.
    What are the odds that trump declassified the very documents that the FBI planted?
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
    Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
    Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    What are the odds that trump declassified the very documents that the FBI planted?
    Trumpian sheeple will continue to deny fault on their demagogue's part, regardless of the evidence or court rulings. They are deluded. A cult of clueless idiots.

    Notice how many of the traits below apply to Trumpers:

    10 Things to Know About the Psychology of Cults
    https://www.onlinepsychologydegree.i...logy-of-cults/
    • Cults are attractive because they promote an illusion of comfort.
    • Cults satisfy the human desire for absolute answers.
    • Those with low self-esteem are more likely to be persuaded by a cult environment.
    • New recruits are “love bombed.”
    • Women are more likely than men to join a cult.
    • Many cult members have rejected religion.
    • Cults maintain their power by promoting an “us vs. them” mentality.
    • Cult leaders are masters at mind control.
    • Cult members often have no idea they’re in a cult.
    • Cult life can have a dangerous and lasting effect.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    They were declassified, Pobre...concentrate...declassified.
    Poor Dick is fighting a losing battle, fuck him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Ah, of course - you got the "de-classified" talking points.

    There is a protocol - and docs would be labeled that way if they were. Trump has everyone thinking he can just say "These are declassified!", and it makes it true.
    Lol POTUS is the authority on declassification the only protocol necessary is him literally waving his hands over the documents and saying "poof you're declassified."


    Chuck Rosenberg:

    It might, but here's why I don't think it will in the end make a difference, Geoff.

    The president of the United States, any president, is the primary consumer of intelligence information. He is the ultimate customer. He also has the authority to classify and declassify documents. So, even if documents were found that are classified, it would be very difficult, exceedingly difficult, for a federal prosecutor to prove that Mr. Trump or any other president didn't just wave their hand over the documents and say, I now declassify you.

    In order to prove a criminal case of mishandling or retaining classified information, you would also have to essentially prove a negative, that that didn't happen, that the documents were properly classified, and that President Trump took the documents in a classified condition, he mishandled them, and retained them.

    That's a very difficult criminal case, given that the president has ultimate classification and declassification authority.


    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ho...al-records-act
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/04/trum...ion-probe.html

    In a week it's gone from not a chance to probable, if Garland has the spine for it. He's shown us he has.
    Merrick just needs to get into a radioactive chamber and turn into "The HulkLand" whenever he gets angry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    In an alternate universe, Trump has already been press-ganged by the younger and stronger inmates into cleaning their toilets and making their beds.
    I actually think he'll be in court too much - too many jurisdictions fighting over him for the rest of his life - which might not be too much longer. What stress that mutt must be under.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    Why the Hell can you people - on both sides - not wait for legal proceedings to finish before you declare truth or innocence?

    It seems almost all Americans - on both sides - just watch the MSM of their choice and make bold declarations about things.
    Simply because someone on 'their side' claims this or that.

    Most Americans are either staggeringly gullible/naive.
    Bored out of their skulls and trying to stir up shit.
    Or a combination thereof.


    I have said it before.
    The problem with America is NOT the politicians.
    It is the voters.
    LOL. You're funny. Did you say that to twump when he was saying the "election was rigged" before the election was over?

    No, you didn't. Nice try, tho.
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