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Thread: Was dropping the Bomb on Japan racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It debatable whether the war would have drug on, I guess that is the debate that will continue on this issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Germany, Italy and Japan could have avoided all that costly damage and horrific casualties; just don't start a global conflict and engage in criminal murder.

    My German uncle once opined about Dresden calling it a war crime; I told him starting a global war and murdering millions of Jews is the actual war crime. He was such a fucking Nazi. I can't say his death bothered me the least.
    Lol, Italy killed less civilians in WW2 than the USA / UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    If you read what I posted, I didn't say we had another.
    Then why bring it up? It's like saying "Gee, we should have landed on the Moon in 1945". It's an unrealistic fantasy.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It debatable whether the war would have drug on, I guess that is the debate that will continue on this issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    The Japanese feared a Russian invasion. We could have negotiated a surrender using these fears. Japan’s army was beaten and could not sustain the fight against American and Russian forces.

    The use of nuclear weapons were not necessary.
    Yes, agreed considering Soviet armed conflict with Japan. Made the the A- bombs as overkill.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Japanese_War

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    dropping the bombs was just war. the internment of japanese americans was racist.............wait, a democrat did that.............right?
    Good point and agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanDmowski View Post
    Lol, Italy killed less civilians in WW2 than the USA / UK.
    Why don't you impress everyone with your math skills and add the total civilian deaths by the US and UK. Please link your source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It debatable whether the war would have drug on, I guess that is the debate that will continue on this issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    If you had read your history, the Japanese refused unconditional surrender. You don't negotiate with terrorist rogue nations. You defeat them.

    Lol, is the USA that?

    Actually thevUSA since WW2 has killed a similar amount as Japan did in WW2.

    Are we the good guys, really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanDmowski View Post
    The USA had no issue with most of Central Europe going Soviet.
    The U.S. Army was never going to beat the Red Army to Poland and Hungary.

    We made a trade. The USSR would occupy eastern Europe, and Stalin promised to help us defeat Japan by attacking them within 3 months of defeating Germany.

    That is one promise Stalin kept, to the day. He declared war on Japan and annihilated the million man Kwangtung Army in Manchuria.

    At Yalta, Roosevelt got Stalin to promise to hold democratic elections in Poland, but Stalin broke that promise. At that point, the American people were never going to accept using the United States Army to invade Eastern Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I know all about the Donner party as well as the Brazil soccer team.
    The Andes crash. A great reference which gave rise to this sticker:


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urugua...rce_Flight_571


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The U.S. Army was never going to beat the Red Army to Poland and Hungary.

    We made a trade. The USSR would occupy eastern Europe, and Stalin promised to help us defeat Japan by attacking them within 3 months of defeating Germany.

    That is one promise Stalin kept, to the day. He declared war on Japan and annihilated the million man Kwangtung Army in Manchuria.

    Roosevelt got Stalin to promise to hold democratic elections in Poland, but Stalin broke that promise. At that point, the American people were never going to accept using the United States Army to invade Eastern Europe.
    A debatable point since the US had supplied the USSR against the Nazis. OTOH, there should be no doubt the price in American lives would only be slightly less than invading Japan. Nuking the Soviets was the only sure way to defeat them...which bombs we didn't have until a year later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It debatable whether the war would have drug on, I guess that is the debate that will continue on this issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Why don't you impress everyone with your math skills and add the total civilian deaths by the US and UK. Please link your source.
    The Anglos killed about 200,000 civilians in the A- bombs over Japan, 25,000 in the Dresden firebombing , 2,000,000 civilians Bengai famine & 150,000 civilians in the Italian campaign.

    Italy killed about 380,000 civilians in Ethiopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    A debatable point since the US had supplied the USSR against the Nazis. OTOH, there should be no doubt the price in American lives would only be slightly less than invading Japan. Nuking the Soviets was the only sure way to defeat them...which bombs we didn't have until a year later.
    Yes, the Anglos helped Soviets reach Central Europe first through supplying them through lend lease & d\cking around with Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The U.S. Army was never going to beat the Red Army to Poland and Hungary.

    We made a trade. The USSR would occupy eastern Europe, and Stalin promised to help us defeat Japan by attacking them within 3 months of defeating Germany.

    That is one promise Stalin kept, to the day. He declared war on Japan and annihilated the million man Kwangtung Army in Manchuria.

    At Yalta, Roosevelt got Stalin to promise to hold democratic elections in Poland, but Stalin broke that promise. At that point, the American people were never going to accept using the United States Army to invade Eastern Europe.
    The first A bomb was tested just before Potsdam Conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The U.S. Army was never going to beat the Red Army to Poland and Hungary.

    We made a trade. The USSR would occupy eastern Europe, and Stalin promised to help us defeat Japan by attacking them within 3 months of defeating Germany.

    That is one promise Stalin kept, to the day. He declared war on Japan and annihilated the million man Kwangtung Army in Manchuria.

    At Yalta, Roosevelt got Stalin to promise to hold democratic elections in Poland, but Stalin broke that promise. At that point, the American people were never going to accept using the United States Army to invade Eastern Europe.
    Stalin / Soviets were partners in crime with Hitler's Nazis in starting WW2.

    The Molotov Ribbentrop Pact, Germany Soviet credit agreement & German Soviet Commercial Agreement.
    Yet, the West never declared war on also Soviets.

    Instead the West kissed Soviet behind through lend lease & at the conferences of Tehran, Yalta & Potsdam.

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