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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    could be. or he could be seen as a liberator from the family regime.
    He's a young man. If he's smart he has to realize the tide of history is against the Hermit Kingdom as it is now
    Yep, and the "Old Man", Trump, has given him a choice. We'll see what happens.
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    What happened to East Germany is not an encouraging model for the people in the North.

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    It will come about only if the two koreas want it, on their terms , not America's terms. Both the koreas goal is to get U.S. troops out ASAP so a united korea would be possible. Americas impact is waning in Asia while chinas is rising
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    It will come about only if the two koreas want it, on their terms , not America's terms. Both the koreas goal is to get us troops out ASAP so a united korea would be possible. Americas impact is waning in Asia while chinas is rising
    it's fairly obvious re-unification expressed as Korean nationalism is wanted by both peoples.
    China is a rising superpower -not so much that US influence is waning. Much of east Asia has close ties to the US

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    Credit Moon, Not Trump or Kim, for the Breakthrough With North Korea
    South Korea’s president has been planning his peace gambit for his entire life. If peace breaks out on the peninsula, he’ll deserve the bulk of the applause. Yep

    And moon knows how to handle trump and strokes his ego and make him look more important then he is in the process


    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...n-korea-218413
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Credit Moon, Not Trump or Kim, for the Breakthrough With North Korea
    South Korea’s president has been planning his peace gambit for his entire life. If peace breaks out on the peninsula, he’ll deserve the bulk of the applause. Yep


    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...n-korea-218413
    and China and the USA..nothing happens in Korea without the Big Powers say so, except for show meetings

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    and China and the USA..nothing happens in Korea without the Big Powers say so, except for show meetings
    the big power is china in asia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Because his reign can not withstand the scrutiny of foreign inspectors, with or without diplomatic immunity, being given free access to all of North Korea. ... and the impact of the information they leak or smuggle to Kim's subjects. And the information foreign inspectors leak to the outside world about the conditions there.

    We are all speculating. It's just my opinion. I'm an optimist.
    True.


    I don't assume that it's going to get to the point where Kim allows any inspectors. I see this as a years long project, with Kim offering the bare essentials in the beginning. Don't forget...the world now knows that trump never abided by his business contracts, and he certainly doesn't abide by any previous U.S trade/defense/peace agreements.

    He can't be trusted. Why would Kim believe otherwise?
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    it's fairly obvious re-unification expressed as Korean nationalism is wanted by both peoples.
    China is a rising superpower -not so much that US influence is waning. Much of east Asia has close ties to the US
    America is a dying empire and trump is helping it's demise , allies can no longer trust America and in asia they are looking toward china
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Credit Moon, Not Trump or Kim, for the Breakthrough With North Korea
    South Korea’s president has been planning his peace gambit for his entire life. If peace breaks out on the peninsula, he’ll deserve the bulk of the applause. Yep

    And moon knows how to handle trump and strokes his ego and make him look more important then he is in the process


    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...n-korea-218413
    Most world leaders used this ploy in year one, but as we saw at G6....they're done attempting to appease the loon.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    True.


    I don't assume that it's going to get to the point where Kim allows any inspectors. I see this as a years long project, with Kim offering the bare essentials in the beginning. Don't forget...the world now knows that trump never abided by his business contracts, and he certainly doesn't abide by any previous U.S trade/defense/peace agreements.

    He can't be trusted. Why would Kim believe otherwise?
    Kim's choices are limited ...

    Comply or die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Most world leaders used this ploy in year one, but as we saw at G6....they're done attempting to appease the loon.
    As will the koreas and china
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    I haven't seen any evidence of his "theory".
    You need evidence to posit a theory? Citation needed...

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    Concerning the OP:

    Sounds just like the mentality of Bush worshippers when they hollered at me that invading Iraq would be a great idea.

    Trump boot-lickers appear to be naïve, uninformed, dim witted, or perhaps all of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Concerning the OP:

    Sounds just like the mentality of Bush worshippers when they hollered at me that invading Iraq would be a great idea.

    Trump boot-lickers appear to be naïve, uninformed, dim witted, or perhaps all of the above.
    That was only slightly better than Barack Hussein O's idea to bomb Libya and ignore ISIS.

    But this time, there is not doubt that Kim has WMDs.
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