All Capitol rioters were in an unauthorized area at the Capitol.
The Portland rioters were not.
Therefore, the Portland rioters were not at the Capitol.
This is a formal fallacy in the form of an illicit major. What you are arguing is essentially this:
Most (or all) Capitol rioters were charged with being in an unauthorized area where someone protected by the SS was located (All A are B)
No Portland rioters were so charged (No C are A)
Therefore no Portland rioters are the equivalent of Capitol rioters (No C are B)
That is excusing the Portland rioters from the 90% of what actually happened there that was an exact equivalent to the Capitol riot only far more violent. That is, the Portland rioters attempted to storm a federal building protected by federal police and security, fought with them, tried to force entry, and did things like destroy federal property. That the Portland rioters failed to gain entry doesn't change that.
No, I did that because you failed to prove your case right off. I didn't know Pence was in the building. When you finally demonstrated that, which you could have done from the start, I acknowledged I was wrong.Fact - You accused me of an ipse dixit for pointing out facts that were well known.
This isn't true either. For example, Trump ordered ALL US attorneys appointed by Obama fired. Obama did the same thing to Bush. Clinton did it back in the 90's. Bush II was an exception keeping some and firing others. Williams might have resigned, but that doesn't change the outcome or direction of the story.Fact - The story you linked to clearly has 'facts' wrong. It claims the US attorney was fired by Biden. In fact Billy Williams did what almost every US attorney does when a new President takes office. He resigned. https://www.opb.org/article/2021/02/...ey-this-month/
For which riot?Fact - No one who is getting deferred resolution agreement was charged with multiple crimes. Everyone who is getting a DRA was released at their first hearing. I can find no instances of anyone not being released at their preliminary hearing.
Again, for which riot?Fact - Some of the persons whose charges were dropped appear to have never been indicted after their preliminary hearing.
The first name mentioned in the article you posted - arrested in July, Preliminary hearing the next day and released. October- signed waiver of speedy indictment which is supposed to happen within 30 days. The next court date is in April when the charges are dropped "with prejudice."
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket...es-v-bouchard/
Cherry picking. That one person, faced with overwhelming evidence of his crime was indicted doesn't make the case for the majority getting light sentences or having their cases dismissed in Portland while even the most minor charges in the Capitol riot are being pressed home with a vengeance.Fact - Charles Randolph Comfort was not indicted for attacking a police officer. He was indicted for 118 U.S.C. § 231(a)(3) which has a maximum penalty of 5 years.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...5029.1.1_1.pdf
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...edition=prelim
All Capitol rioters were in an unauthorized area at the Capitol.
The Portland rioters were not.
Therefore, the Portland rioters were not at the Capitol.
Hello T. A. Gardner,
And these people you have mentioned are somehow preventing punishment of those who deserve it? How are they doing that? Are they directing the prosecutors in Portland?
And how do you know those whose cases were dropped deserve punishment if the prosecutors don't think they can prove a case? Just because you feel like they should be?
The only reason the ones in Portland were is because the (somebody's in charge) administration is rife with radical Leftists who don't want to punish their own...
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Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
As I have stated, IF they were released after being arrested for destroying the police cars. I see nothing about that in the OP and the article. If that happened, then yes it would make for a good defense.
From the article, it seems that most of them are assaults and violence. The Capitol rioters can use that as a defense.
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