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    Hello Cypress,

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    If this passes, the last 18 months have seen the implementation of some landmark liberal policies, despite having razor thin margins in Congress.

    A massive economic stimulus bill

    A massive infrastructure bill

    The largest and most aggressive climate bill ever.

    Finally, after 20 years of trying, government authority to negotiate prescription drug prices

    Raising taxes on multinational corporations.
    And the Climate Package!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Cypress,

    And the Climate Package!
    Yea, great... There's a surefire disaster in the making. Committing to whirligigs, sunshine, and battery cars will make electricity and cars unaffordable just as has happened everywhere else in the world where the radical Left got this shit in place...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Meanwhile, Republican priorities are to ban "woke" school textbooks and ban the reproductive rights of women.
    I’m proud to be woke, considering the alternative is to be asleep to reality. No wonder the Trumper’s prefer not to be woke, they can’t stand reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I’m proud to be woke, considering the alternative is to be asleep to reality. No wonder the Trumper’s prefer not to be woke, they can’t stand reality.
    So it goes back to what does being woke entail to you? It's easy to declare oneself to be woke but when put into action what does it look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    So it goes back to what does being woke entail to you? It's easy to declare oneself to be woke but when put into action what does it look like?
    It’s a slang for the word awake, the opposite of which is to be asleep or unaware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    It’s a slang for the word awake, the opposite of which is to be asleep or unaware.
    it means to be aware of social injustice, especially racism. (of course as John McWhorter so eloquently wrote in Woke Racism one can declare themselves woke while still being racist).

    One can state they are woke all day long but what does that actually mean in action?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    it means to be aware of social injustice, especially racism. (of course as John McWhorter so eloquently wrote in Woke Racism one can declare themselves woke while still being racist).

    One can state they are woke all day long but what does that actually mean in action?
    To me actions speak louder than words. But people are complex and can be awake to social injustice in some ways but not others. People can also be awake to social injustice in some circumstances but not in other circumstances. It’s very complex.
    I do not understand how being awake to social injustice could ever be considered a negative thing. Unless of course you are a racist, Then I guess you would consider being woke to social justice a negative thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    To me actions speak louder than words. But people are complex and can be awake to social injustice in some ways but not others. People can also be awake to social injustice in some circumstances but not in other circumstances. It’s very complex.
    I do not understand how being awake to social injustice could ever be considered a negative thing. Unless of course you are a racist, Then I guess you would consider being a week to social justice a negative thing.
    Being aware of injustice is not a bad thing but that doesn't mean all actions in response to it are good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringfellow Hawk View Post
    Oh please Garland was unfit as we have seen in his handling of his current position. Hell your ilk had people bare false witness against Kavanaugh
    If you're so fucking stupid you spell "bear" as "bare", that disqualifies anything else you say from being taken seriously.

    Besides, Kavanaugh lied his drunken ass off.

    His college roommate said as much.

    Plus, he and Barret both lied about respecting precedent.

    But then that's what conservatives do.

    They lie about everything to get what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I’m proud to be woke, considering the alternative is to be asleep to reality. No wonder the Trumper’s prefer not to be woke, they can’t stand reality.
    I don't really like buzzwords, and Woke is just the latest buzzword Republicans have latched onto to manufacture rage in the MAGA base.

    18 months from now, no Republicans are going to be strutting around and derisively invoking the word Woke. It's just the current fad they have been ordered to parrot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I don't really like buzzwords, and Woke is just the latest buzzword Republicans have latched onto to manufacture rage in the MAGA base.

    18 months from now, no Republicans are going to be strutting around and derisively invoking the word Woke. It's just the current fad they have been ordered to parrot.
    Its a trick they do, sometimes in an attempt to say something without actually saying it, in this case I think its an attempt to be racist, by suggesting that there is something wrong with being against racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I’m proud to be woke, considering the alternative is to be asleep to reality. No wonder the Trumper’s prefer not to be woke, they can’t stand reality.
    Recognizing social injustice is one thing. But, there is, like with anything else, the possibility of being over-woke. Or taking wokeness to absurd extremes to the point that you're seeing bogeymen around every corner and calling things racism that, as you said are more complex than that.

    I think over-wokeness is a common condition nowadays and, like extremist conservatism, is part of the reason for the social divide in this country.

    Nobody wants or even knows how to moderate their views and use common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I don't really like buzzwords, and Woke is just the latest buzzword Republicans have latched onto to manufacture rage in the MAGA base.

    18 months from now, no Republicans are going to be strutting around and derisively invoking the word Woke. It's just the current fad they have been ordered to parrot.
    I use it because it's the only word available to describe a certain propensity of far left progressive types to point at everything as racism or one of the other currently popular "isms".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Recognizing social injustice is one thing. But, there is, like with anything else, the possibility of being over-woke. Or taking wokeness to absurd extremes to the point that you're seeing bogeymen around every corner and calling things racism that, as you said are more complex than that.

    I think over-wokeness is a common condition nowadays and, like extremist conservatism, is part of the reason for the social divide in this country.

    Nobody wants or even knows how to moderate their views and use common sense.

    JMHO.
    If they mean, being overly sensitive to the possibility of racism, they need another word, don't lampoon people who are accurately aware of social injustice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Its a trick they do, sometimes in an attempt to say something without actually saying it, in this case I think its an attempt to be racist, by suggesting that there is something wrong with being against racism.
    If I want to offer grace I’d say it’s understandable older (white) people might not have heard of the term although it’s been around since at least 2016 (that’s when I first started really hearing it) and was a term used by progressives. So people who are saying they never heard the term until Republicans used within the past year or two live in a serious bubble to me, however offering grace one can say it’s a generational thing. Like a lot of movements they can go too far and get pushback and that’s what has happened to the woke movement.

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