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AProudLefty (09-16-2020)
It is human nature. He was only distracted for a moment but it was his bad luck that moment included a flock of geese on an intercept course. Not just that, but a flock so large it took out both engines. That's very rare indeed.
It only takes seconds which is why it takes constant vigilance at critical stages of flight. If he was climbing out at 180 knots, that's 3 nautical miles/minute or a mile every 20 seconds. It would be difficult to spot a flock of geese at a mile, depending upon lighting and angle. He would have to be looking straight ahead, spot them then react, which takes a second or two on its own. Bad luck coupled with high speeds and a momentary distraction is all it took.
FWIW, the First Officer was flying and would have been looking down at his instruments to maintain proper heading and climb speed.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
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Note in the transcript there are 33 seconds from when Sully comments about the Hudson to when he says "Birds", which is immediately followed by impact. Descending into a flock of birds is bad because they are under the nose and might not be seen until the last second but on climbout, they are above and in front.
If looking forward, large birds are relatively easy to spot much less a flock of geese. 33 seconds of distraction in a +6 hour flight (to Seattle) isn't much in comparison, but it was enough. Shit happens.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
AProudLefty (09-16-2020)
The military have radar to detect birds, but not on civilian airplanes apparently at least in 2009 anyway.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/faa-tes...d-strikes/#app
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