moon (04-08-2020), ThatOwlWoman (04-08-2020)
If anything this virus may be God's way of forcing our hands with the state of the world. I mean, any Biblical scholar has to recall what the Bible said regarding the plagues and pestilence. The locust swarms and then a widespread disease the likes of which haven't been seen in ages. As pollution lessens greatly while mankind's activities and excesses take a hiatus part of me can't help but smile. And yet, I'm saddened that this is what it took.
moon (04-08-2020), ThatOwlWoman (04-08-2020)
For now....Help your neighbors Pretty simple
I expect that an unfortunate number of evangelists believe that these are the End Times, and that going to church is necessary and that they'll be protected by God because they're among the 144,000 righteous, etc. etc.
There are a number of pagans and other non-Christians who believe that Gaia is cleansing the planet of our presence.
I can't believe either scenario. Like you, how sad that it took something of this magnitude to wake us up. If we are really awakened. Have no doubts about that.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Go pretend to do stuff, thou hypocrite. Tip: Posting dog shares on social media is not helping.
A reminder from that Book you love to quote at others all the time:
"Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others.
"Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
"But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others" -- Jesus (Matthew 6)
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Priceless
PS: Help Your Neighbors....Pretty simple
I doubt it's the end times when it is going slow enough for us to effect change. I've actually been anticipating the ball to drop in a manner such as this for a while. If this is our wake up call I hope enough listen. If this becomes a new trend of normalcy it won't matter quite as much as the choices are being made already by the instincts of survival. That's where our hands are being forced.
ThatOwlWoman (04-08-2020)
What have you done to help those in need today?....Just do it
There's no such thing as "end times" anyways. Eventually we will develop both vaccines and effective treatments for this disease. Then we'll go along happily for many decades till the next novel pathogen arises. It's the history of human kind.
Prediction: New cases will level out mostly due to social distancing. Restrictions on gatherings will be relaxed. Within a few weeks we will see another surge of new cases. Epidemiologists expect that eventually 70-80% of human beings will have encountered the virus. Around that point we will have some herd immunity. Many also expect this to become a seasonal outbreak like influenza.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
PoliTalker (04-09-2020)
Since everyone likes to keep bumping this thread maybe someone can answer the question I asked Jarod on Page one, post #6. It was never answered.
How will you spin it if the draconian measures taken under Trump reduce the death count?
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
Phantasmal (04-08-2020)
I think I did answer it but if not here than on a similar thread. I worked in aviation safety for a few decades. It's impossible to know how many lives and planes were saved by the work of those like myself. All we could know is how many were lost.
That said, do you think Trump is a leaded in reducing the "death count" or do you think he's reluctant about the measures and pushing to relax them as soon as possible? If so, why do you think he wants to relax them ASAP?
Speaking of "death count":
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52209954
The US recorded the most coronavirus deaths in a single day with more than 1,800 fatalities reported on Tuesday.
It brings the total number of deaths in the country to nearly 13,000, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
The US has more than 402,000 confirmed cases, the highest number in the world. Global cases have exceeded 1.4 million.
However during a news conference President Donald Trump said the US might be getting to the top of the "curve".
How many lives would have been saved if Trump had recognized COVID-19 isn't just the "flu" back in January? Darth, do you, or have you ever, disagreed with Teflon Don's and/or Truth Detector's opinions on the matter?
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
Substitute ' nature ' for ' god' and all the manufactured biblical crap and I fully agree with you. However- I feel sure that you and I - and everybody else that shares these sentiments- know in our heart of hearts that we are surrounded by conditioned dumbasses who will- just as soon as they are permitted- continue their cosmic clusterfuck from the point that they left off. There will be no legislation to prevent them from increasing their environmental destruction to make up for ' lost time '- in fact it will be encouraged. Their ' progress ' is progress towards their own extinction and , frankly, they deserve to be gone. The trick will be to prevent being extinguished along with them. In that, nature is our ally.
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" First they came for the journalists...
We don't know what happened after that . "
Maria Ressa.
Well, nature and it's stewardship is all part of our belief system. Sadly you have so many phonies that have opted out of that bit and still think they can carry any significance outside the like-minded wannabes. Saying you're a Christian but disregard the duties to nature is like saying you're a vegetarian but still eat shellfish.
moon (04-09-2020)
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